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An even better solution would be to just show the "unlock with passcode" button at all times, and not just after Face ID has spent 15 seconds not recognising yo
by dkdbejwi383 6y ago
An even better solution would be to just show the "unlock with passcode" button at all times, and not just after Face ID has spent 15 seconds not recognising you because you have a mask on.
- aikinai 6y agoThey fixed this a few versions ago. Now if it sees a mask, it shows the passcode input immediately.
- mvkel 5y agoThis has never worked for me.
- tomc1985 6y agoInteresting, mine seems to have like a 50% chance of unlocking anyways with my mask on, I thought they did some sort of improved face-with-mask detection or something
- dwaite 6y agoIt is a cross between detecting the face is obscured, and recognizing the face if deformed by a tight-fitting mask. If you can get around the obscured face check, you can use the alternative FaceID profile while wearing a mask to deal with any nose/cheek deformation. If a mask is on the tip of my nose and loose fitting, it seems to work.
- hackmiester 6y agoI have about a 60% success rate on their "fix" to this, varying wildly depending on which mask I am wearing. The better a mask fits, the less likely the solution is to work, because the phone seems to think it's an unmasked face, just not my unmasked face.
- dkdbejwi383 6y agoStrange, I'm up to date yet it still spends ages searching for my face when I have a mask on. Perhaps my mask isn't masklike enough?
- melq 6y agoHappens to me all the time too, super annoying. If I'm outside and the suns out its even worse.
- fireattack 6y agoStill sounds weird to me. I use an Android phone, I can unlock my phone at anytime using either face, fingerprint, or passcode. What exactly is the reason/rationale that it has to fail on facial recognition first before proceeding to use passcode?
- ASalazarMX 6y ago> What exactly is the reason/rationale that it has to fail on facial recognition first before proceeding to use passcode? C O U R A G E Joke aside, it seems that Face ID was a tremendous technical effort so you could have instant access to your phone. Besides unlocking, there's no other serious application (memojis aside). The fingerprint reader was probably removed just to prop acceptance of Face ID. Also, Face ID is less secure. If you're detained or mugged, just looking at your phone will unlock it before you can react and look away. IMO, the 3D scanner should be on the other side, enhancing your pictures with 3D depth.
- kemayo 6y ago> IMO, the 3D scanner should be on the other side, enhancing your pictures with 3D depth. That's what the LIDAR sensor on the latest phones is for. It only gets used in photos for the portrait-mode stuff, admittedly.
- ghostpepper 6y agoOff topic, and I know we're in the middle of an Apple-bashing thread, but the portrait mode on iPhone 12 is amazing. Portrait mode is Apple-speak for pseudo-depth-of-field, which is the effect that real cameras do that make the subject in focus but the background blurry. It makes photos look way more professional.
- ryanlol 6y ago> Also, Face ID is less secure. If you're detained or mugged, just looking at your phone will unlock it before you can react and look away Much easier to force someone to unlock the phone with their fingerprint than to force them to unlock with faceid if you have “Require attention” on. You can’t physically force someone to look in a certain direction, but you definitely can force them to tap their finger on a surface.
- willis936 6y agoThat was their claim, however my observation is that it just takes longer to fail before offering "swipe up to get the passcode interface". I have to waste many seconds of staring at my phone just to have the privilege of swiping up to spin the passcode interface display slot machine. You know what would work? Just showing the passcode interface as soon as the screen turns on.
- bayindirh 6y ago> That was their claim, however my observation is that it just takes longer to fail before offering "swipe up to get the passcode interface" If I have a mask on, swiping up immediately brings up the pass code screen. In this case immediately is <0.5 secs.
- crooked-v 6y agoAnd for me, it regularly doesn't, taking the full timeout period.
- drcongo 6y agoNever does for me either, possibly because without a mask I have a beard so it struggles to tell if it's a mask or my regular face. ProTip though: swipe up again immediately and you get the passcode prompt.
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- fouc 6y agoI wonder if this is an issue for the older apple watches or if it happens for the new ones too.
- pfranz 6y agoI believe the immediate parent was talking about Face unlock outside of this update where the Watch is added. I have the same issue. Sometimes, (I guess?) it can tell I'm wearing a mask and pops up a number pad quickly, other times it authenticates my masked face, other times it just hangs trying to authenticate and after a few seconds I get a number pad. FWIW I have a new Apple Watch and have this issue. I just installed the update so I haven't tested the Watch authentication. If it can't detect a mask I'll have the same issue as before waiting for a number pad.
- mgkimsal 6y agodoesn't do that for me. just got a new 12 mini running iOS 14.4 and... I still always have to do multiple gyrations to get to 'passcode'. Still regretting moving away from the SE with the touch button in that regard.
- mgkimsal 6y agoack. can't edit any more. So... I noticed that iOS unlock itself does behave that way (per the parent) BUT... individual apps that use face unlock still don't deal with masks. There's probably some varying levels of security with face unlock?
- FredPret 6y agoOnly problem is, mine takes fifteen seconds to notice the mask
- gizmo385 6y agoI've never had FaceID take fifteen seconds to respond either positively or negatively (mask or not). Just an anecdote to counter your's
- thebean11 6y agoFor me it totally depends on the type of mask. Extremely annoying.
- zuppy 6y agothey actually do this, but it doesn’t look like a button. the “face id” text that is shown when it tries to recognize your face is clickable and it brings the password form. awesome ux...
- dkdbejwi383 6y agoWow, thanks for the tip. I would never in a million years have discovered this otherwise. I don't know if Apple's UX design has gone downhill lately or if I'm just getting older and stupider.
- macintux 6y agoOne of the least-discoverable features in the phone. One of many such features, sadly.
- mensetmanusman 6y agoA good idea would be “discovery mode” where buttons appear everywhere which explain what can be done if you don’t want the floating buttons around.
- speleding 6y agoIn Settings -> Accessibility -> Display & Text Size you have an option "Button Shapes" that will show a button outline on any clickable text. I always enable this when setting up an iPhone for a parent (or myself).
- thebean11 6y ago..thank you so much
- drdaeman 6y agoIt's order of magnitude less than 15 seconds for me. And they have specifically implemented mask detection so if FaceID spots a face with a mask on it immediately shows the passcode keyboard. Personally, I'm getting the passcode prompt in less than 1 second.
- fireattack 6y agoJust curious, why not just show numpad/pattern input all the time then?
- jonny_eh 6y agoIt's confusing to show inputs that will then likely disappear in less than a second.
- giovannibajo1 6y agoBecause in the standard lock screen you see notifications. iOS switches from the lock screen to the numpad when it detects a facemask, or after a timeout from the unlock gesture (swipe up).
- boardwaalk 6y agoI’ve never seen it take 15 seconds… it takes 2 seconds with a mask and 3 seconds with no face visible at all, for me. Versus 1 second when Face ID works.
- fiddlerwoaroof 6y agoIf you tap the “Face ID” text, it pops up the passcode entry form. I discovered this by accident a couple years ago.