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If this is going to work from my boat at some point, I'm never setting foot on land ever, again.

by neals 5y ago

chrissnell 5y ago
Until you need to shop for groceries and boat repair supplies, of course.
- BurningFrog 5y ago
  You just order those through Boatmates.
  - dzhiurgis 5y ago
    Delivered by gen-a's via fpv drone
- rosstex 5y ago
  >groceries Ever heard of fish? >boat repair Ever heard of the fish people?
  - innocenat 5y ago
    > Ever heard of the fish people? Mermaid?
    - rosstex 5y ago
      I was thinking more "The Shape of Water".
- dzhiurgis 5y ago
  One of my sailing channels I follow YouTube once said - it's not really cruising channel, it's a bluewater boat maintenance channel. Those episodes are always the most interesting!
- deleted 5y ago
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supernova87a 5y ago
Unfortunately (at present) Starlink does not provide for mobile platform access. They say you have to stay within your access cell and people have reported inability to connect if the antenna is taken somewhere distant from the registered home position. Maybe that will change in the future though?
- wikibob 5y ago
  That’s true, but only for capacity planning reasons during the beta. They’re working on demonstrating flight use on a Air Force plane. They’ve filed for FCC approval for mobile tests. https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/8/22319761/spacex-starlink-fcc-internet-cars-boats-aircraft https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/8/22319761/spacex-starlink-f... Elon’s tweeted about it https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1369051431903268865?s=21 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1369051431903268865?s=21
  - janzer 5y ago
    There have already been USAF flight tests of starlink https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_user_tests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_user_tests
  - londons_explore 5y ago
    There are two approaches to mobile users. Either you have a beam from the satellite directly track a moving user, or you have many fixed beams from the satellite and the user has to jump from one to the next as they move. The first method was definitely used to begin with, but it doesn't scale - the satellite only has a certain number of beams available, so past a certain number of moving users it becomes necessary to use the 2nd system, which requires a very different software setup. Eventually a hybrid system might be used, allocating per-user beams to the highest bandwidth users at the time. Per user beams can be far narrower and therefore get better SNR and more data throughput.
    - _Microft 5y ago
      Moving users do not make a difference as the relative speed between satellites and users are dominated by the speed of the satellites which is kilometers per second vs. kilometers per hour for a moving user. The Starlink dishes and satellites are using phased array antennas by the way which can steer the beam extraordinarily fast without having to physically move the antenna at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phased_array https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phased_array
Havoc 5y ago
I believe musky said mobile would be active by end of year?
Stevvo 5y ago
OneWeb is coming to boats this year, even before it has global coverage. One thing to note with OneWeb is there are two terminals that must be placed more than 10' apart. e.g. ideal to put one on each hull of a cat, might be a bit tricky finding somewhere to put them on a 35' mono-hull. So far it looks like OneWeb is going to be a better option for marine use because you can actually find information about it within the industry already. With Starlink all we have to go on is speculation and the occasional tweet.

If this is going to work from my boat at some point, I'm never setting foot on land ever, again.

by neals 5y ago

If this is going to work from my boat at some point, I'm never setting foot on land ever, again.

chrissnell 5y ago

Until you need to shop for groceries and boat repair supplies, of course.

BurningFrog 5y ago
You just order those through Boatmates.
- dzhiurgis 5y ago
  Delivered by gen-a's via fpv drone
rosstex 5y ago
>groceries Ever heard of fish? >boat repair Ever heard of the fish people?
- innocenat 5y ago
  > Ever heard of the fish people? Mermaid?
  - rosstex 5y ago
    I was thinking more "The Shape of Water".
dzhiurgis 5y ago
One of my sailing channels I follow YouTube once said - it's not really cruising channel, it's a bluewater boat maintenance channel. Those episodes are always the most interesting!
deleted 5y ago
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supernova87a 5y ago

Unfortunately (at present) Starlink does not provide for mobile platform access. They say you have to stay within your access cell and people have reported inability to connect if the antenna is taken somewhere distant from the registered home position. Maybe that will change in the future though?

wikibob 5y ago
That’s true, but only for capacity planning reasons during the beta. They’re working on demonstrating flight use on a Air Force plane. They’ve filed for FCC approval for mobile tests. https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/8/22319761/spacex-starlink-fcc-internet-cars-boats-aircraft https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/8/22319761/spacex-starlink-f... Elon’s tweeted about it https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1369051431903268865?s=21 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1369051431903268865?s=21
- janzer 5y ago
  There have already been USAF flight tests of starlink https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_user_tests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_user_tests
- londons_explore 5y ago
  There are two approaches to mobile users. Either you have a beam from the satellite directly track a moving user, or you have many fixed beams from the satellite and the user has to jump from one to the next as they move. The first method was definitely used to begin with, but it doesn't scale - the satellite only has a certain number of beams available, so past a certain number of moving users it becomes necessary to use the 2nd system, which requires a very different software setup. Eventually a hybrid system might be used, allocating per-user beams to the highest bandwidth users at the time. Per user beams can be far narrower and therefore get better SNR and more data throughput.
  - _Microft 5y ago
    Moving users do not make a difference as the relative speed between satellites and users are dominated by the speed of the satellites which is kilometers per second vs. kilometers per hour for a moving user. The Starlink dishes and satellites are using phased array antennas by the way which can steer the beam extraordinarily fast without having to physically move the antenna at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phased_array https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phased_array

Havoc 5y ago

I believe musky said mobile would be active by end of year?

Stevvo 5y ago

OneWeb is coming to boats this year, even before it has global coverage. One thing to note with OneWeb is there are two terminals that must be placed more than 10' apart. e.g. ideal to put one on each hull of a cat, might be a bit tricky finding somewhere to put them on a 35' mono-hull. So far it looks like OneWeb is going to be a better option for marine use because you can actually find information about it within the industry already. With Starlink all we have to go on is speculation and the occasional tweet.