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Qt Creator debugger fails on me constantly, it's 2021 and the leading C++ plaf. is completely unreliable in that many more cases. That's why 'I must' use print

Qt Creator debugger fails on me constantly, it's 2021 and the leading C++ plaf. is completely unreliable in that many more cases. That's why 'I must' use print debugging, because the 'powers that be' still provide a broken, half-baked solution 30 years in. Print debugging is however so powerful, I think there almost should be a mechanism built into languages and tooling around it so that it becomes part of the process instead of a 'kind of workaround'. It's something we all do, constantly, and yet you'll never hear about it when people are arguing about Rust or Go.

ddingus 6y ago
This kind of thing actually got added to a Microcontroller and its native SPIN language. There is "SEND" which can be used as an ad hoc comms channel, aimed at a program method. And a debug system that can both stream data, text and graphics to a client, as well as capture and report on the state of the 8 CPU cores possibly running. https://www.parallax.com/propeller-2-graphical-debug-tools-in-spin2/ https://www.parallax.com/propeller-2-graphical-debug-tools-i... The debug output is something like using an xterm with Tektronix emulation turned on, and with all the lower level bits packaged away. The use can do a lot, from a "print" type operation to sophisticated graphics, static or animated. On the capture side, a sort of supervisor region of RAM is reserved to for an ISR to capture processor state, or anything in memory really. Can be time, or event driven.
winrid 6y ago
Have you tried Clion?
- jollybean 6y ago
  Well I just tried it and thanks for reminding me it was an option. I like it so far, we'll see how the debugger works, but IDE's cannot rid us of the cobwebs of arcane languages. C/C++ I think are the worst, the number of pitfalls and amount of needless complexity is byzantine and an enormous strain on mental energy.

ddingus 6y ago

This kind of thing actually got added to a Microcontroller and its native SPIN language. There is "SEND" which can be used as an ad hoc comms channel, aimed at a program method. And a debug system that can both stream data, text and graphics to a client, as well as capture and report on the state of the 8 CPU cores possibly running. https://www.parallax.com/propeller-2-graphical-debug-tools-in-spin2/ https://www.parallax.com/propeller-2-graphical-debug-tools-i... The debug output is something like using an xterm with Tektronix emulation turned on, and with all the lower level bits packaged away. The use can do a lot, from a "print" type operation to sophisticated graphics, static or animated. On the capture side, a sort of supervisor region of RAM is reserved to for an ISR to capture processor state, or anything in memory really. Can be time, or event driven.

winrid 6y ago

Have you tried Clion?

jollybean 6y ago
Well I just tried it and thanks for reminding me it was an option. I like it so far, we'll see how the debugger works, but IDE's cannot rid us of the cobwebs of arcane languages. C/C++ I think are the worst, the number of pitfalls and amount of needless complexity is byzantine and an enormous strain on mental energy.