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InfiniTime 1.0
- tyingq 6y agoLooks interesting. Some scale reference in the pictures would be helpful. Either this person has a pretty small wrist, or the watch is quite large: https://www.pine64.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/PineTimeHR-1024x1024.jpg https://www.pine64.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/PineTimeHR...
- simlevesque 6y agoHe 100% has a small wrist. I own the dev kit and it's smaller than many smartwatch on the market.
- Avamander 6y agoIt's also probably the camera amplifying that effect.
- TT-392 6y agoSmall wrist, I have a pinetime, it is a pretty comfortable size.
- acidburnNSA 6y agoI clicked on the "buy" button. Wow is it really $24.99 for the watch!? That's awesome. Might have to trade in my Casio after all.
- maxbaines 6y agoI was about to comment on the quality looking at the pictures but for 24.99 I will take that back. Good work.
- aspaceman 6y agoYup had the same thought. Thought they were gonna have to charge 150 or something for it.
- jasonjayr 6y ago...... aaaaaand sold out already. That's a good price for a hackable smartwatch.
- montroser 6y agoSo, how close are we to living in the 1980s future I grew up with where Penny and Inspector Gadget are seamlessly video chatting through their watches?
- Mediterraneo10 6y agoThe PineTime is a very underpowered device that is really only capable of showing messages from a nearby smartphone. It doesn’t even run Linux, it runs a low-footprint firmware. Don't expect to video chat through it.
- Y_Y 6y agoIt's got a 64MHz cortex M4. It won't do 4k h.265, but you could definitely stream crappy low-res video. You'd need an external camera too though.
- TT-392 6y agoThe display is controlled over an 8MHz spi bus, you can only write to it as a bitmap (no functions to draw stuff like lines or filled rectangles) you give a square to draw in, and then a rectangle to bitmap to draw in the square. With the speed of the spi bus, the max speed you'll be able to update the entire display at is 8fps.
- m-p-3 6y agoAnd to be honest I'm mostly looking for notifications and some info available at a glance when I'm looking at a "smartwatch". I currently have an Amazfit Bip paired to Gadgetbridge, but I'd definitely like to see something less proprietary on my wrist. Crossing my fingers to see a transflective display version one day for an even longer battery lifetime.
- lostgame 6y agoThe inclusion of a camera on a watch unfortunately would 1) take up a lot of space and 2) move around a lot. I'm not sure it'll ever be popular.
- tempest_ 6y agoI am not super into the smart watch stuff but I do like what PinePhone is trying to do. Hopefully I can get a few more years out of my oneplus and then maybe the mobile linux distros and hardware will have matured enough that they are a viable alternative to android.
- opan 6y agoSome of the OnePlus devices have mainline Linux support and can run postmarketOS already.
- franga2000 6y agoThere's a surprising amount of devices postmarketOS supports, even from manufacturers that aren't as modding-friendly as OnePlus. See https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/All_devices https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/All_devices Truly an impressive project!
- edoceo 6y agoyea, I love this little watch. got a 3 pack. updates didn't brick me. still haven't made my little app for it :( maybe this weekend.
- summm 6y agoWould have been nice if there was some kind of unbrickable bootloader for the sealed version. Many other devices have, for example, usb, which would allow for DFU or fastboot. Also, some more and better health sensors such as spo2. Buy hey, a trustworthy non-cloud smartwatch for $25 ? Shut up and take my money!
- terramex 6y agoInfinitime uses DFU over Bluetooth and is non-brickable. Well, at least I didn't brick my dev-kit single time.
- summm 6y agoThey explicitly warn about doing development on sealed versions, so I figured it is not really unbrickable.
- wongarsu 6y agoIf you modify the bootloader you can brick it. The most likely scenario is that you switch to a different OS, which often requires changing to a modified bootloader, and something goes wrong. But you can't brick it with regular OS or application development
- TT-392 6y agoIf you really want something really hard to brick, I'd recommend going pinetime with wasp os, that has a bootloader that doesn't even need a working os to be able to flash.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 6y agoDamn, out of stock already. I was genuinely curious. Anyone knows how often they get restocked?
- tluyben2 6y agoOfftopic: anyone have an idea when the tablet will be back?
- bArray 6y agoCheckout their latest update - but basically in the next 3 months I believe. But of course that all depends on the manufacturing situation, you literally have automotive giants pausing production due to shortages.
- miguelrochefort 6y agoSince it’s out of stock, I would recommend getting the Colmi P8 from AliExpress. It’s $20 and the hardware is almost identical to the PineTime. InfiniTime and Wasp-OS both run pretty well on mine.
- marricks 6y agoAny thoughts on if the Colmi P8 plus still run ok?
- Jiejeing 6y agoHardware-wise I would say the different screen with a slightly higher resolution could be an issue, but I have neither watches and don’t know how adaptative OSes like infinitime are.
- TT-392 6y agoMost of the osses arw pretty non adaptive, I really wouldn't count on it, unless you are willing to do quite a bit of work
- miguelrochefort 6y agoI wouldn’t bet on that.
- myself248 6y agoIs there a good overview of the ecosystem? I still can't figure out what amazfish actually does and whether it has anything to do with Amazon.
- gostsamo 6y agoIt requires Sailfish, so it seems to be a companion app, but for Sailfish OS.
- Avamander 6y agoIt actually works on any Linux that can run Qt stuff and has Bluetooth.
- Avamander 6y agoThis wiki page might help a bit, it lists a bunch of different available software that relates to the PineTime: https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PineTime_Development https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PineTime_Development
- zikzak 6y agoI had a hard time finding the water resistance specs but they are on the wiki [0]: IP Rating: IP67 (waterproof to 1 meter (sealed edition!)) [0] https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PineTime#Default_OS https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PineTime#Default_OS
- mfontani 6y agoCompared to an amazfit, which is a similar style smartwatch, the battery life is atrocious - only a few days? Is there any work done to improve the battery life? Ideally, a month (or so) on a charge would be best.
- poisonborz 6y agoIt doesn't have a transreflective display which provides the gains. I really don't understand why - maybe they are hard to source? But yeah I would pay a LOT more for an open Amazfit Bip with a great community. To note, the Bip does have an alternative firmware, but its somewhat niche and unknown.
- g_p 6y agoI'd agree - the Bip hits the sweet spot for me. Newer Amazfit devices have a server-side "obsolescence switch" - each time they're repaired they need "activated" via a remote server that uses a proprietary app and account with the server. There's various ways to do this, like using a Python script to interact with their API, but it's a true anti-feature. Ideally we'd see an open source version of this kind of device (with the transflective display), or some progress on removing the "pairing lock" from the firmware - I don't think the devices have signed firmwares, so it should be possible to either patch out the check, or replace the validation key with a known key, and generate it locally. Gadgetbridge is widely under-appreciated open source for these devices, and it's good to see others appreciating its use in liberating these kinds of devices (at least on the phone-side).
- Abishek_Muthian 6y agoIf you're unable to ship PineTime to your country and if you're looking for a watch to tinker with checkout wasp-os[1] project which runs micropython on some easily available NRF52832 devices. Also Aaron's ATCWatch[2] which runs Arduino compatbile firmware on the aforementioned devices and more; His Daflasher app has made it possible to flash firmware to to NRF52832 devices without any HW tinkering. [1] https://github.com/daniel-thompson/wasp-os https://github.com/daniel-thompson/wasp-os [2] https://github.com/atc1441/ATCwatch https://github.com/atc1441/ATCwatch
- ruph123 6y agoIs there any such device with an OLED or e-ink display? All of the above mentioned have IPS panels and things like watchy with an eink display are not really for fitness tracking and don’t have a HR monitor. I wish there was a Pebble in 2021.
- m-p-3 6y agoAs the owner of several "smartwatch" with a transflective display (Pebble, Pebble Steel, Pebble Time Steel and Amazfit Bip), it does make a huge difference in battery life and I wouldn't downgrade to a smartwatch with a battery life of under a week.
- ruph123 6y agoAs far as I can tell the Amazfit Blip is the latest with a transflective display. If there was an option to install a different OS on it, I would love to use one.
- Abishek_Muthian 6y agoThe NRF52832 watches are pretty much just limited to satisfy some modding curiosities, Many don't even come with a proper HW step counter. I would love an E-Ink watch to tinker with at this price point too, But there's a thread every other week on HN discussing why rolling out devices with E-Ink by small companies is extraordinarily difficult.
- siriuz 6y agoIs it a sustainable product?
- Avamander 6y agoUnlikely, but probably more sustainable than a smartwatch that can't be repaired or firmware replaced.
- m463 6y agoEven so, when the whole watch is $24, it might be ok to lower your "ifixit score" expectations.
- schmorptron 6y agoFor their other products like the PineBook Pro and the PinePhone, I think they did commit to selling replacement parts for a long time.
- dillondoyle 6y agoDoes anyone know how good and accurate this heart rate monitor? OR know of a good one-time-cost ideally open sport fitness focused watch? I would LOVE for someone to hack the Whoop. It's not accurate/good enough, nor insightful enough, for me to want to keep paying $30 a month. but a one time cost and an open community to patch it to match individual use cases would be completely worth even a couple hundred upfront.
- Jarwain 6y agoI've been pretty happy with my vivosmart, and there are libraries for pulling data off of it. It's not open in the same way this project is, though
- dillondoyle 6y agonice thanks. does the more rigid larger structure get in the way for you? I rock climb so flexibility is key. Yeah I totally would have bought one of these just to try it out if it was still available!
- Jarwain 6y agoIt's not Too big, so it doesn't really impede my wrist's range of motion. It sits just before the bump where my ulna reaches the rest of my wrist.
- bArray 6y agoThe heart rate monitor is pretty decent, I've been daily driving mine for quite a while now and am more than happy with it.
- dillondoyle 6y agoon the whoop? my experience is it's slow to pickup changes & consistently 5-10 bps lower than other bands / pulse ox. But my biggest gripes are the auto-sleep detection is horrible for me, and my sport isn't really conducive to the whole value add of measuring 'strain' in the way they do. Doesn't really catch short but very high intensity bouts of work. So like if I can't get good sleep recommendations or measure my strain/recovery I don't want to pay $30 a month just to see a heart rate pulse on my phone when working out. It hasn't improved my training in a meaningful way.