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If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time deep fake technology has been used to carry out a disinformation attack on politicians. I wonder if the actual vide

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time deep fake technology has been used to carry out a disinformation attack on politicians. I wonder if the actual video conferences have been recorded. I'm very curious to see them.

amelius 6y ago
I'm guessing that they used the excuse of a bad video connection to make them almost get away with this.
- dannyw 6y ago
  Have you been following open source deepfake technology? Recent models are convincingly realistic in 640x360 (the default zoom resolution)
  - shoto_io 6y ago
    Do you mind sharing some links? I’d love to see the most recent versions
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    - fighterpilot 6y ago
      In a parallel comment[1]. I wouldn't know it is a deepfake. [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26924229 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26924229
      - amelius 6y ago
        This could mean that video calls can be compressed more aggressively. I.e., just send someone's face once, and then send posture and facial expression parameters for the remainder of the session.
        fighterpilot 6y ago
        That's a great idea. You could have low latency, high def, high FPS video convos. Couldn't someone launch a plausible competitor to Zoom doing this? I'd certainly prefer that service.
        narinciye 6y ago
        Nvidia is working on it already. https://developer.nvidia.com/maxine https://developer.nvidia.com/maxine
        amelius 6y ago
        The downside is that we will lose our #1 reason for having symmetric upload/download speeds in residential areas.
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  - lostlogin 6y ago
    I was mystified by a series of videos of rather serious politicians singling ridiculous songs, then found the clips were generated in Wombo.app. It’s a funny little gimmick, but it had me questioning things I’ve previously seen and thought real. https://www.wombo.ai/ https://www.wombo.ai/
pjc50 6y ago
It's happened a couple of times that pranksters have managed to make calls to government figures.
JimBlackwood 6y ago
There is a screenshot: https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/kamerleden-vergaderen-met-deepfake-imitatie-van-stafchef-russische-oppositieleider-navalny~b04b5322/ https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/kamerleden-verg...
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- absorber 6y ago
  Thanks, here's a direct link to avoid paywall: https://0x0.st/-mQu.jpeg https://0x0.st/-mQu.jpeg
  - JimBlackwood 6y ago
    Ah, amazing, thanks! I didn’t even notice the paywall, odd.
  - FranchuFranchu 6y ago
    0x0 is a really useful website.
    - absorber 6y ago
      Yep, this is in my ~/.bash_aliases : #### Upload file to 0x0.st (The Null Pointer) - A filehosting service. # Usage: nullpointer_upload <file> nullpointer_upload () { curl -F "file=@$1" https://0x0.st ;}
Deukhoofd 6y ago
It's the first time they actually did it and got caught. The article specifically mentioned the same actor has been in contact with politicians from Estonia, Lithuania, and the United Kingdom.
- absorber 6y ago
  Right, I was referring to this attack as a whole.

amelius 6y ago

I'm guessing that they used the excuse of a bad video connection to make them almost get away with this.

dannyw 6y ago
Have you been following open source deepfake technology? Recent models are convincingly realistic in 640x360 (the default zoom resolution)
- shoto_io 6y ago
  Do you mind sharing some links? I’d love to see the most recent versions
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]
  - fighterpilot 6y ago
    In a parallel comment[1]. I wouldn't know it is a deepfake. [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26924229 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26924229
    - amelius 6y ago
      This could mean that video calls can be compressed more aggressively. I.e., just send someone's face once, and then send posture and facial expression parameters for the remainder of the session.
      - fighterpilot 6y ago
        That's a great idea. You could have low latency, high def, high FPS video convos. Couldn't someone launch a plausible competitor to Zoom doing this? I'd certainly prefer that service.
        narinciye 6y ago
        Nvidia is working on it already. https://developer.nvidia.com/maxine https://developer.nvidia.com/maxine
        amelius 6y ago
        The downside is that we will lose our #1 reason for having symmetric upload/download speeds in residential areas.
        deleted 6y ago
        [deleted]
- lostlogin 6y ago
  I was mystified by a series of videos of rather serious politicians singling ridiculous songs, then found the clips were generated in Wombo.app. It’s a funny little gimmick, but it had me questioning things I’ve previously seen and thought real. https://www.wombo.ai/ https://www.wombo.ai/

pjc50 6y ago

It's happened a couple of times that pranksters have managed to make calls to government figures.

JimBlackwood 6y ago

There is a screenshot: https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/kamerleden-vergaderen-met-deepfake-imitatie-van-stafchef-russische-oppositieleider-navalny~b04b5322/ https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/kamerleden-verg...

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absorber 6y ago
Thanks, here's a direct link to avoid paywall: https://0x0.st/-mQu.jpeg https://0x0.st/-mQu.jpeg
- JimBlackwood 6y ago
  Ah, amazing, thanks! I didn’t even notice the paywall, odd.
- FranchuFranchu 6y ago
  0x0 is a really useful website.
  - absorber 6y ago
    Yep, this is in my ~/.bash_aliases : #### Upload file to 0x0.st (The Null Pointer) - A filehosting service. # Usage: nullpointer_upload <file> nullpointer_upload () { curl -F "file=@$1" https://0x0.st ;}

Deukhoofd 6y ago

It's the first time they actually did it and got caught. The article specifically mentioned the same actor has been in contact with politicians from Estonia, Lithuania, and the United Kingdom.

absorber 6y ago
Right, I was referring to this attack as a whole.