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I'm curious, why is in-browser use so appealing to you?

by _jal 6y ago

dhagz 6y ago
If you're already spending a lot of time in the browser looking at stuff (AWS Console, Stack Overflow, etc), I can see the convenience of just switching tabs to your terminal rather than pulling up a window. So far I've solved that problem with keyboard shortcuts or other macros to pull up a terminal when I need it.
- ahepp 6y ago
  Conceptually, I don't think the solution to "switching windows is too hard" ought to be "make the terminal part of the browser". Although it does seem like perhaps the least immediately painful way to solve the problem. Using Lynx in the terminal might be another way to do it.
  - dhagz 6y ago
    Yeah, I tend to agree. But I know that there are some people who really, really, really like doing stuff in the browser.
  - dividedbyzero 6y ago
    I think getting the terminal into the browser is exactly the way this should be solved. Currently I'm in a browser for the vast part of my work, as are a huge lot of other people. Most of the web apps I need wouldn't even render in Lynx.
rektide 6y ago
Why not have your software be universally accessible & online? What is the appeal in having software that is attached to a single system, single OS, & offline?
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- ahepp 6y ago
  This seems like a very baroque alternative to tmux and ssh
  - rektide 6y ago
    Let's consider: I'm at my parents, or a friends house. I need to log in to do something. My options are: A) download a terminal emulator + ssh application onto their computer & run that, flooding the screen with some unknown terminal application. B) opening a web page & logging in to a Zellij or TermKit or whatever session. Which do you think will seem more baroque to them? The web is an obvious, much improved way to do almost all software. It's online, universally accessible. A lot of stuck, old-fashioned-thinking in this thread. I'm a ssh + tmux (or more often ssh + dtach/vim) user myself, but it's clear to me this has serious disadvantages, that it's not nearly as accessible, as on tap as it could be.
oblio 6y ago
Where do they mention in-browser use? WebAssembly is used for extensibility, but not necessarily for access from a browser. Am I misreading their blog post?
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- WA9ACE 6y ago
  It's at the very bottom of the page under "What's next?" really easy to miss.
WA9ACE 6y ago
Personally I have a TMUX session on a pi4 I keep up that just monitors various services and there's times I'd like to be able to open it not unlike a dashboard on my phone or tablet. Using a session via the web is not a big use case for me, or something I'd want to operate exclusively in, but it'd be nice to have.

I'm curious, why is in-browser use so appealing to you?

by _jal 6y ago

I'm curious, why is in-browser use so appealing to you?

If you're already spending a lot of time in the browser looking at stuff (AWS Console, Stack Overflow, etc), I can see the convenience of just switching tabs to your terminal rather than pulling up a window. So far I've solved that problem with keyboard shortcuts or other macros to pull up a terminal when I need it.

ahepp 6y ago
Conceptually, I don't think the solution to "switching windows is too hard" ought to be "make the terminal part of the browser". Although it does seem like perhaps the least immediately painful way to solve the problem. Using Lynx in the terminal might be another way to do it.
- dhagz 6y ago
  Yeah, I tend to agree. But I know that there are some people who really, really, really like doing stuff in the browser.
- dividedbyzero 6y ago
  I think getting the terminal into the browser is exactly the way this should be solved. Currently I'm in a browser for the vast part of my work, as are a huge lot of other people. Most of the web apps I need wouldn't even render in Lynx.

rektide 6y ago

Why not have your software be universally accessible & online? What is the appeal in having software that is attached to a single system, single OS, & offline?

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ahepp 6y ago
This seems like a very baroque alternative to tmux and ssh
- rektide 6y ago
  Let's consider: I'm at my parents, or a friends house. I need to log in to do something. My options are: A) download a terminal emulator + ssh application onto their computer & run that, flooding the screen with some unknown terminal application. B) opening a web page & logging in to a Zellij or TermKit or whatever session. Which do you think will seem more baroque to them? The web is an obvious, much improved way to do almost all software. It's online, universally accessible. A lot of stuck, old-fashioned-thinking in this thread. I'm a ssh + tmux (or more often ssh + dtach/vim) user myself, but it's clear to me this has serious disadvantages, that it's not nearly as accessible, as on tap as it could be.

oblio 6y ago

Where do they mention in-browser use? WebAssembly is used for extensibility, but not necessarily for access from a browser. Am I misreading their blog post?

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WA9ACE 6y ago
It's at the very bottom of the page under "What's next?" really easy to miss.

WA9ACE 6y ago

Personally I have a TMUX session on a pi4 I keep up that just monitors various services and there's times I'd like to be able to open it not unlike a dashboard on my phone or tablet. Using a session via the web is not a big use case for me, or something I'd want to operate exclusively in, but it'd be nice to have.