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I'm not sure I could untrain all my muscle memory I've built up over the years with my TMUX configuration, but I truly believe in the next 10 years all of my cu

by WA9ACE 5y ago

I'm not sure I could untrain all my muscle memory I've built up over the years with my TMUX configuration, but I truly believe in the next 10 years all of my current command line tools will be slowly replaced with rust equivalents (with the exception of neovim). ripgrep and fzf are already a large part of my workflow, and I love seeing WebAssembly becoming the universal plug and play standard. > Build a web client to allow users to connect to a running Zellij daemon through the browser (on a local or remote server). That's the future feature I'm most interested in over TMUX.

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ibraheemdev 5y ago
> I'm not sure I could untrain all my muscle memory I've built up over the years with my TMUX configuration You could quite easily configure Zellij's keybindings [0] to mirror your tmux config. [0]: https://zellij.dev/documentation/keybindings.html https://zellij.dev/documentation/keybindings.html
- WA9ACE 5y ago
  That's great! As soon as it supports detaching a running session I'll take a look at migrating.
  - ComputerGuru 5y ago
    You can use abduco for that part (but I’ll just keep using tmux).
  - bostonvaulter2 5y ago
    Here's the tracking issue for that: https://github.com/zellij-org/zellij/issues/69 https://github.com/zellij-org/zellij/issues/69 Looks like it'll be coming relatively soon (there's already a PR open, although it needs some refinement)
_jal 5y ago
I'm curious, why is in-browser use so appealing to you?
- dhagz 5y ago
  If you're already spending a lot of time in the browser looking at stuff (AWS Console, Stack Overflow, etc), I can see the convenience of just switching tabs to your terminal rather than pulling up a window. So far I've solved that problem with keyboard shortcuts or other macros to pull up a terminal when I need it.
  - ahepp 5y ago
    Conceptually, I don't think the solution to "switching windows is too hard" ought to be "make the terminal part of the browser". Although it does seem like perhaps the least immediately painful way to solve the problem. Using Lynx in the terminal might be another way to do it.
    - dhagz 5y ago
      Yeah, I tend to agree. But I know that there are some people who really, really, really like doing stuff in the browser.
    - dividedbyzero 5y ago
      I think getting the terminal into the browser is exactly the way this should be solved. Currently I'm in a browser for the vast part of my work, as are a huge lot of other people. Most of the web apps I need wouldn't even render in Lynx.
- rektide 5y ago
  Why not have your software be universally accessible & online? What is the appeal in having software that is attached to a single system, single OS, & offline?
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Scarbutt 5y ago
FZF is written in Go though.
Pawka 5y ago
I believe you could. I can share the story from a bit different field. I was using a split keyboard with staggered layout and just built an Ergodox because wanted to try vertically staggered layout. Another differences are thumb clusters of keys on Ergodox and different firmware. So the layouts of both keyboards are very different and different customisations can be made. The main thing which I was afraid of was the same as you've said - that I won't be able to change my muscle memory. Another thing - I won't be able to switch back the old keyboard (I expected to use it at the office) or even won't be able to use laptop keyboard anymore. Surprisingly even after getting comfortable with Ergodox with totally different layout (different firmware is being used between keebs) I'm still able to jump between those easily. Maybe the first 5 mins are a bit harder but that is it. This surprises me what human brain is capable to do. Of course I still need to switch between keyboards regularly to not forget the layouts. Not the same thing but we often are afraid of unknown.
breuleux 5y ago
> I'm not sure I could untrain all my muscle memory I've built up over the years with my TMUX configuration I assume you can customize your keybindings so that they're mostly the same as your TMUX configuration. But even if you couldn't, based on my own experience changing editors/OS/other tools, if you commit to it, retraining should take a couple weeks at most. It'll be super annoying for that couple weeks but it's really not all that ingrained.
lytedev 5y ago
Check out tmate

by WA9ACE 5y ago

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ibraheemdev 5y ago

> I'm not sure I could untrain all my muscle memory I've built up over the years with my TMUX configuration You could quite easily configure Zellij's keybindings [0] to mirror your tmux config. [0]: https://zellij.dev/documentation/keybindings.html https://zellij.dev/documentation/keybindings.html

WA9ACE 5y ago
That's great! As soon as it supports detaching a running session I'll take a look at migrating.
- ComputerGuru 5y ago
  You can use abduco for that part (but I’ll just keep using tmux).
- bostonvaulter2 5y ago
  Here's the tracking issue for that: https://github.com/zellij-org/zellij/issues/69 https://github.com/zellij-org/zellij/issues/69 Looks like it'll be coming relatively soon (there's already a PR open, although it needs some refinement)

_jal 5y ago

I'm curious, why is in-browser use so appealing to you?

dhagz 5y ago
If you're already spending a lot of time in the browser looking at stuff (AWS Console, Stack Overflow, etc), I can see the convenience of just switching tabs to your terminal rather than pulling up a window. So far I've solved that problem with keyboard shortcuts or other macros to pull up a terminal when I need it.
- ahepp 5y ago
  Conceptually, I don't think the solution to "switching windows is too hard" ought to be "make the terminal part of the browser". Although it does seem like perhaps the least immediately painful way to solve the problem. Using Lynx in the terminal might be another way to do it.
  - dhagz 5y ago
    Yeah, I tend to agree. But I know that there are some people who really, really, really like doing stuff in the browser.
  - dividedbyzero 5y ago
    I think getting the terminal into the browser is exactly the way this should be solved. Currently I'm in a browser for the vast part of my work, as are a huge lot of other people. Most of the web apps I need wouldn't even render in Lynx.
rektide 5y ago
Why not have your software be universally accessible & online? What is the appeal in having software that is attached to a single system, single OS, & offline?
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Scarbutt 5y ago

FZF is written in Go though.

Pawka 5y ago

I believe you could. I can share the story from a bit different field. I was using a split keyboard with staggered layout and just built an Ergodox because wanted to try vertically staggered layout. Another differences are thumb clusters of keys on Ergodox and different firmware. So the layouts of both keyboards are very different and different customisations can be made. The main thing which I was afraid of was the same as you've said - that I won't be able to change my muscle memory. Another thing - I won't be able to switch back the old keyboard (I expected to use it at the office) or even won't be able to use laptop keyboard anymore. Surprisingly even after getting comfortable with Ergodox with totally different layout (different firmware is being used between keebs) I'm still able to jump between those easily. Maybe the first 5 mins are a bit harder but that is it. This surprises me what human brain is capable to do. Of course I still need to switch between keyboards regularly to not forget the layouts. Not the same thing but we often are afraid of unknown.

breuleux 5y ago

> I'm not sure I could untrain all my muscle memory I've built up over the years with my TMUX configuration I assume you can customize your keybindings so that they're mostly the same as your TMUX configuration. But even if you couldn't, based on my own experience changing editors/OS/other tools, if you commit to it, retraining should take a couple weeks at most. It'll be super annoying for that couple weeks but it's really not all that ingrained.

lytedev 5y ago

Check out tmate