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At least he wasn't slowing anyone down. I have been in several meetings with "Project Managers" who waste everyone's time asking for dates and estimates for the
by bob33212 5y ago
At least he wasn't slowing anyone down. I have been in several meetings with "Project Managers" who waste everyone's time asking for dates and estimates for their spreadsheet even after I have explained that this is an iterative process and we cannot expect to know in detail what tasks will be complete on which days and that we should give general updates with a rough ETA of completion every 2 weeks instead.
- ABeeSea 5y agoNo one expects the date to be right. But you have to have a plan to iterate on and learn from. “Plans are useless, but planning is indispensable.”
- marcosdumay 5y ago> No one expects the date to be right. I have never seen this in practice. On my experience, every single person that pushes for estimations expects your date to be right.
- ThalesX 5y agoOh, I've seen the other kind too! Whenever I have a direct manager, the estimation is expected to be right. Whenever I talk to a manager that is not directly tied to me, they always push the "no one expects the date to be right" narrative. I guess the set of managers that have not been my direct managers is what you are looking for!
- bob33212 5y agoThen don't write any dates down. It is a basic communication skill to avoid sending out a spreadsheet with dates on it when you know those dates are not expected to be met. Someone reading it is going to assume that there is a problem if tasks are not completed by the date on the spreadsheet.
- datavirtue 5y agoJust give them a date so they shut up. Whatever date, is fine.