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India is relatively young country - that might explain the low death rate. It would be interesting to see statistics by age groups compared to countries like It

India is relatively young country - that might explain the low death rate. It would be interesting to see statistics by age groups compared to countries like Italy.

kumarvvr 5y ago
True. I also suspect that, in general, Indian people are exposed to more pathogens on a daily basis compared to developed countries. It might be due to factors such as lax regulation in food and restaurant sectors (street food is highly popular among the young and old, and its generally not too hygienic). There might be more faster and stronger immunological responses due to this increased exposure.
- vijaybritto 5y ago
  Please stop saying this "we may be more immune because we are exposed to more viruses". Doctors have repeatedly clarified that this is not true and this immunity does not help in COVID's case. This is an argument used by antivaxxers all across the country. This also pushes people to false medicines like Ayurveda/Homeotherapy
  - hesarenu 5y ago
    I don't think there are many antivaxxers in india. The group who are in Ayurveda are more likely to take the vaccine and continue using Ayurveda thats from my experience.
    - bongoman37 5y ago
      Unfortunately, there are plenty of antivaxxers in India, especially in the upper middle classes who copy talking points from crunchy western folks. Its not as high as that in, say, California but it is a non negligible fraction.
    - boruto 5y ago
      While this is true about people who follow Ayurveda, Many people thought covid was not a big deal from because how easy the first wave went through. The vaccine slots were mostly free till a month back when the crunch started.
      - hesarenu 5y ago
        It was not a easy first wave. The cases were rising very fast from june till october. Then suddenly it came down. It did not go up during following festivals nor during winter. I don't think there has been put forward a very good explanation on why the cases went down. Now in peak summer it going up though way more rapidly than before. Question would be will it come down like before without much understanding of why it went up or down.
    - kumarvvr 5y ago
      I have never seen anti-vaxxers in the majority of the population. Credit goes to successive governments from various parties, who have largely not politicized the issue. It also helps that the previous and current generation have seen the effects of non-vaccination, like polio afflicted ones. In general, the population goes by the word of the medical establishment and there are no nonsensical opposing voices. What is happening in USA is puzzling to me. Just goes to show that you can have all the wealth, infrastructure, research and qualified personnel in the world and still be beholden to crackpot ideas and conspiracy theories.
  - collyw 5y ago
    I have read some peer reviewed research that suggested that exposure to other coronaviruses (including SARS from 2003) do give some level of immunity to Covid 19
    - vijaybritto 5y ago
      Yes and they are not common viruses that people get exposed to everyday.
      - collyw 5y ago
        As I understand it around 1 in 4 colds are caused by coronaviruses. The Diamond Princess cruise ship only ever had 20% of the passengers that tested positive, implying a fair bit of previous immunity.
      - AuryGlenz 5y ago
        Coronaviruses are common, and India is also in the region where this nasty one originated. For all we know, a worse one swept through the population 3000 years ago and inferred some genetic immunity. Or they have cross immunity from recent infections. It’s weird this never gets talked about, considering how all of the countries near China did quite well (relatively).
- collyw 5y ago
  I have eaten street food in India. It may not look especially hygienic, but most of it is deep fried and that is going to kill off most pathogens pretty effectivley. Steamed (as opposed to fried) momos in Northern India seemed to be the thing that gave most people a bad stomach form anecdotal reports.
  - blackoil 5y ago
    If you are "white" and want to experience Delhi Belly, try Pani Puri from roadside vendor. I think it has >80% success rate.
  - kumarvvr 5y ago
    Pani Puri is usually cold served. Sandwiches (yummy ones in Pune) are not deep fried or even properly roasted. Samosas / Mirchi / Jalebi are made and kept out in containers for hours together, until they are cold.
vijaybritto 5y ago
The death rate is not low. Its falsified [1]. People are dying by the thousands and the govt is hiding it. Please look at the indian twitter struggling to find beds, oxygen tanks and drugs for their loved ones. [1] https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1384782949879517185.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1384782949879517185.html

India is relatively young country - that might explain the low death rate. It would be interesting to see statistics by age groups compared to countries like Italy.

kumarvvr 5y ago

True. I also suspect that, in general, Indian people are exposed to more pathogens on a daily basis compared to developed countries. It might be due to factors such as lax regulation in food and restaurant sectors (street food is highly popular among the young and old, and its generally not too hygienic). There might be more faster and stronger immunological responses due to this increased exposure.

vijaybritto 5y ago
Please stop saying this "we may be more immune because we are exposed to more viruses". Doctors have repeatedly clarified that this is not true and this immunity does not help in COVID's case. This is an argument used by antivaxxers all across the country. This also pushes people to false medicines like Ayurveda/Homeotherapy
- hesarenu 5y ago
  I don't think there are many antivaxxers in india. The group who are in Ayurveda are more likely to take the vaccine and continue using Ayurveda thats from my experience.
  - bongoman37 5y ago
    Unfortunately, there are plenty of antivaxxers in India, especially in the upper middle classes who copy talking points from crunchy western folks. Its not as high as that in, say, California but it is a non negligible fraction.
  - boruto 5y ago
    While this is true about people who follow Ayurveda, Many people thought covid was not a big deal from because how easy the first wave went through. The vaccine slots were mostly free till a month back when the crunch started.
    - hesarenu 5y ago
      It was not a easy first wave. The cases were rising very fast from june till october. Then suddenly it came down. It did not go up during following festivals nor during winter. I don't think there has been put forward a very good explanation on why the cases went down. Now in peak summer it going up though way more rapidly than before. Question would be will it come down like before without much understanding of why it went up or down.
  - kumarvvr 5y ago
    I have never seen anti-vaxxers in the majority of the population. Credit goes to successive governments from various parties, who have largely not politicized the issue. It also helps that the previous and current generation have seen the effects of non-vaccination, like polio afflicted ones. In general, the population goes by the word of the medical establishment and there are no nonsensical opposing voices. What is happening in USA is puzzling to me. Just goes to show that you can have all the wealth, infrastructure, research and qualified personnel in the world and still be beholden to crackpot ideas and conspiracy theories.
- collyw 5y ago
  I have read some peer reviewed research that suggested that exposure to other coronaviruses (including SARS from 2003) do give some level of immunity to Covid 19
  - vijaybritto 5y ago
    Yes and they are not common viruses that people get exposed to everyday.
    - collyw 5y ago
      As I understand it around 1 in 4 colds are caused by coronaviruses. The Diamond Princess cruise ship only ever had 20% of the passengers that tested positive, implying a fair bit of previous immunity.
    - AuryGlenz 5y ago
      Coronaviruses are common, and India is also in the region where this nasty one originated. For all we know, a worse one swept through the population 3000 years ago and inferred some genetic immunity. Or they have cross immunity from recent infections. It’s weird this never gets talked about, considering how all of the countries near China did quite well (relatively).
collyw 5y ago
I have eaten street food in India. It may not look especially hygienic, but most of it is deep fried and that is going to kill off most pathogens pretty effectivley. Steamed (as opposed to fried) momos in Northern India seemed to be the thing that gave most people a bad stomach form anecdotal reports.
- blackoil 5y ago
  If you are "white" and want to experience Delhi Belly, try Pani Puri from roadside vendor. I think it has >80% success rate.
- kumarvvr 5y ago
  Pani Puri is usually cold served. Sandwiches (yummy ones in Pune) are not deep fried or even properly roasted. Samosas / Mirchi / Jalebi are made and kept out in containers for hours together, until they are cold.

vijaybritto 5y ago

The death rate is not low. Its falsified [1]. People are dying by the thousands and the govt is hiding it. Please look at the indian twitter struggling to find beds, oxygen tanks and drugs for their loved ones. [1] https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1384782949879517185.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1384782949879517185.html