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How different the world would be if companies that hold data about you suddenly have to pay rent unless they have specific explicit permission, eg direct assoc

by kwdc 5y ago

How different the world would be if companies that hold data about you suddenly have to pay rent unless they have specific explicit permission, eg direct association. Put a stinger that means all permission granted requires a complete chain of custody for the data. So no data brokers lurking in the shadows. And a cost for non-compliance. This might get people thinking twice about building databases "just because". If the database has value then perhaps it should have a regular cost? Who knows what data is out there? My experience with just my credit reports was that the files about me were full of errors. At least I was able to correct them. I also discovered a bunch of linkedin-scraped data about me that was posted on various contact sites. Multiple errors.

joe_the_user 5y ago
Your plan would put Facebook, which gets data from people, in a better position, since they collect data on people with those people's permission, in exchange for services. They just have to assign a dollar value to their services and they would have fulfilled your requirements. Where yeah, it would nice if credit companies had to get permission too. And nearly every website already warns me they're going to collect data. With you're step, the next thing is signing away that rent. Or, if your plan involved rent that can't signed away, well, no one would host anyone for anything since they wouldn't want to pay that.
- labawi 5y ago
  Facebook doesn't have permission to hold my data. Especially not scraping data, and if implemented, where would they scrape it from? Certain regulations only consider meaningful freely given consent (all your popups mean nothing), and you still need to implement the option of no unnecessary data. If they put monetary value on data, then they must have an option of paying out any extra, no? Of course they will try to weasel their way through cracks in laws, but they can be fixed, if (and only if) there is support.

by kwdc 5y ago

joe_the_user 5y ago

Your plan would put Facebook, which gets data from people, in a better position, since they collect data on people with those people's permission, in exchange for services. They just have to assign a dollar value to their services and they would have fulfilled your requirements. Where yeah, it would nice if credit companies had to get permission too. And nearly every website already warns me they're going to collect data. With you're step, the next thing is signing away that rent. Or, if your plan involved rent that can't signed away, well, no one would host anyone for anything since they wouldn't want to pay that.

labawi 5y ago
Facebook doesn't have permission to hold my data. Especially not scraping data, and if implemented, where would they scrape it from? Certain regulations only consider meaningful freely given consent (all your popups mean nothing), and you still need to implement the option of no unnecessary data. If they put monetary value on data, then they must have an option of paying out any extra, no? Of course they will try to weasel their way through cracks in laws, but they can be fixed, if (and only if) there is support.