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As a current AppleTV 4K owner, I have no idea how any of this is different from the previous version. I don't any any discernible difference. I already have HDR
by ping_pong 5y ago
As a current AppleTV 4K owner, I have no idea how any of this is different from the previous version. I don't any any discernible difference. I already have HDR, Dolby Atmos, etc.
What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point.
- tokamak-teapot 5y agoI glued a Tile to ours
- sevencolors 5y agoWe have a house rule that if you use the remote, it stays on the coffee table and then goes back to a spot next to the TV when done. Otherwise the couch eats the remote. Feels like they could make it chirp like AirPods?
- slantyyz 5y agoReal question - does the Apple TV support multiple remotes? I've sort of addressed that problem with my FireTV by adding a remote. This way there's still a remote around that I can use while hunting for the one that I misplaced. I have not had a situation where I misplaced both remotes... yet...
- sevencolors 5y agoThere's a iOS app that can be used as a remote. Not sure about another physical remote. They're just paired like anything else so I would assume it's possible
- meepmorp 5y agoThey also redesigned the remote so that it's not a gigantic pain in the ass.
- ghostpepper 5y agoCan I pay for just the new remote? Will it work with the old AppleTV 4K?
- obenn 5y agoThe remote will cost 59$ and is compatible with the previous generation.
- ljoshua 5y agoThis is the best news of the whole new Apple TV announcement!
- Phillips126 5y agoThis is what I want to know. I actually greatly dislike the touch pad on the current remote. I am constantly swiping too fast (flying by my desired target), or my upward/downward swipes are not working as desired. Not to mention every time I pick up the remote, the touch pad thinks I'm swiping causing my movie to fast forward/rewind.
- mlindner 5y agoAvailable here apparently. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJFM3LL/A/siri-remote https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJFM3LL/A/siri-remote Says it's compatible even with AppleTV HD.
- sevencolors 5y agoThat's great news, I'd rather get this than a whole stupid box that basically the same
- kalleboo 5y agoI just use our TV remote. Our TV is 10 years old but the arrow/back/play control keys still work fine to control the Apple TV over CEC. I don't even know where our Apple TV remote is. For anything more fancy (text input) I use the remote on my phone (which automatically pops up on the Lock Screen)
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- rm445 5y agoYou're in luck! You can now attach an AirTag to your Apple remote and use the powerful 'Find My' ecosystem to locate it.
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- antiterra 5y agoIt’s not different because (at the time of this post and comment) this is the page that belongs to the previous version.
- spullara 5y agoI put a brightly colored case on it so it is easy to see. https://www.amazon.com/Nightglow-Silicone-Controller-Lanyard-Included/dp/B0773D3RSJ/ref=sr_1_5 https://www.amazon.com/Nightglow-Silicone-Controller-Lanyard...
- nikisweeting 5y agoI just want a web browser. I almost returned the thing in a fit of confused sadness when I found out it has no browser.
- briandear 5y agoWith airplay, it’s easy.
- nikisweeting 5y agoNah it's garbage, I want to put something on the TV on its own and I want to use my phone for other stuff, not be forced to have the same thing on both screens.
- Legion 5y agohttps://github.com/jvanakker/tvOSBrowser https://github.com/jvanakker/tvOSBrowser
- tpmx 5y agoIt should be built-in. Apple has this bizarre blind-spot where they will not ever launch anything if it doesn't have 100% UX, when sometimes, actually a 98% UX is pretty damn useful. I mean, the remote has a touch pad! I'm not arguing they should have no lower limit on UX quality (lke Android), it's just, it should be slightly, slightly lower. And just to avoid any third party apps solving this problems for users, they simply refuse to allow real local browser Apple TV apps to their appstore.
- nikisweeting 5y agoAnd yet, the Magic Mouse with a lightning port on the bottom exists :)
- tommit 5y agoAnd every time someone points it out, another one points out that it was a conscious decision meant to push you to keep your mouse unplugged. Plus, charging it for a few minutes gives you hours of battery life again.
- Roonerelli 5y agocould try the new Air Tag . https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/04/apple-introduces-airtag/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/04/apple-introduces-airt...
- hajile 5y agoApple has really started investing in and pushing for their arcade subscription. The A12 Bionic should be a lot faster which is a major point if you want to use those features.
- LASR 5y agoA10X vs A12 - This makes me feel meh about the whole 3+ year upgrade. I was hoping for something at least like a A12X or A14. The difference in perf is not sufficient to warrant an upgrade IMO.
- Hamuko 5y agoHow much faster? I want to upgrade my 4K because of the performance.
- jclardy 5y agoTo be honest I don't think it will really be that noticeable. It will be faster, but only slightly. The original 4k had an A10X, the new one has an A12. The A10X was the A10 with beefed up GPU, so on that front they are probably pretty close. The A12 will probably win out on general processing tasks.
- Hamuko 5y agoI imagine most of the beef that I need is on the CPU department.
- hajile 5y agoI thought the "Bionic" referred only to the a12x or a12z variants. It makes sense as a place to put their unused stock left over from their old ipad lineup and as a way to get those "console" graphics.
- rsynnott 5y agoIt should probably be a decent improvement. Here's an A12 (iPhone XS) vs plain ol' A10 (iPhone 7): https://www.anandtech.com/show/13392/the-iphone-xs-xs-max-review-unveiling-the-silicon-secrets/7 https://www.anandtech.com/show/13392/the-iphone-xs-xs-max-re... Now, the A10X had a doubled-up GPU, but even taking that into account it still looks like a fairly big gap on the more demanding tests.
- hathym 5y agomaybe this can help: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/04/apple-introduces-airtag/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/04/apple-introduces-airt...
- vlovich123 5y agoHopefully at some point AirTag will be embedded into all the first-party devices/peripherals.
- ksec 5y ago>What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point. Yes. I am trying to Find out if the new Remote has the AirTag feature built in. But since they didn't announce it I am guessing not. Sigh. I thought it was the best use case for AirTag or Precision Location. Edit: Search through the spec and nothing mentioned. God Damn it WHY! Add the $29 to the price of Apple TV 4K or Remote if they really cared about money. Now that the Remote can Finally turn on the TV. Apple TV is taking the centre stage of TV experience with a single remote. All we need next is a Dump TV or even a "Monitor" so to speak. And Apple courting current TV Station to put out an App for their current livestream content. Essentially replacing Over the Air Broadcast with Broadcast via IP. Then All your "TV" experience can happen on Apple TV. Then someday may be they could allow Apple TV to be a Router so there is one less devices in my living room. And they could also act as a mesh system.
- Method-X 5y ago> Then someday may be they could allow Apple TV to be a Router so there is one less devices in my living room. And they could also act as a mesh system. This is a great idea! Also, it would be awesome if Apple offered a version of Apple TV as a sound bar. Ideally it would be sound bar/router/tvOS.
- adrr 5y agoI actually attached a Tile to my remote because my one year likes to hide it.
- ping_pong 5y agoMy current TV turns on when I turn on the Apple TV. It's probably an option for the HDMI plug, when it senses power to turn on the TV itself.
- theluketaylor 5y agoApple made a huge error not buying Eero and making AppleTV and HomePod devices into zero effort mesh points. They got out of the router business just a couple years too early since it was fully commoditized at the time, but the mesh revolution was just around the corner with a whole new market to conqueror. Letting Amazon get Eero is one of the few consumer facing misses Apple has made in the last few years (the keyboard debacle being the other)
- jhickok 5y agoThe only thing I care about is that it supports 4k at higher refresh rates.
- varenc 5y agoThe old ATV 4k model already supports 4k at 60fps. The only improvement is that it supports HDR 4k content at 60 fps. From the old spec page [0]: H.264/HEVC SDR video up to 2160p, 60 fps, Main/Main 10 profile HEVC Dolby Vision (Profile 5)/HDR10 (Main 10 profile) up to 2160p And the new spec page [1]: H.264/HEVC SDR video up to 2160p, 60 fps, Main/Main 10 profile HEVC Dolby Vision (Profile 5)/HDR10 (Main 10 profile) up to 2160p, 60 fps [0] https://support.apple.com/kb/SP769?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US https://support.apple.com/kb/SP769?viewlocale=en_US&locale=e... [1] https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-4k/specs/ https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-4k/specs/
- iwasakabukiman 5y agoIt can do 120 FPS, which is considered “high frame rate” for televisions. 60 FPS is generally considered standard.
- duhi88 5y agoWhat content is available over 60fps? I don't think they ever released The Hobbit in 48fps, and that's the only movie I'm aware of that was filmed with higher fps. Is this just for games?
- cruano 5y agoAll Formula 1 races are streamed at 60fps, and there's also iPhone-recorded videos But yeah, not much over 60
- layer8 5y agoCan it? The HDMI 2.1 footnote says "Support for up to 4K 60-fps HDR video output", and 120 isn't mentioned anywhere on the spec page.
- varenc 5y agoI diff'd the technical specs for the old and new ATV 4K! https://gist.github.com/varenc/88f3253764fa7782602de2a812af485d https://gist.github.com/varenc/88f3253764fa7782602de2a812af4... There are more wording tweaks than actual capability differences. The real changes boil down to: - New Siri Remote - Support for 4K HDR content at 60fps vs 30fps - HDMI 2.1 vs 2.0 - 802.11ax Wi‑Fi 6 vs 802.11ac
- saagarjha 5y agoThere's also an A12 Bionic.
- kmonsen 5y agothat is not a user feature
- ihattendorf 5y agoPerformance is a feature
- stouset 5y agoNot for a device that rarely operates even close to its performance constraints. If you're using it for games? Sure, but I think that's still a very... let's call it "niche" market for the Apple TV. For people just using it to watch television and movies? Unnoticeable. It'll likely be more power efficient but I'm not sure that's going to be very noticeable.
- saagarjha 5y agoThe way you'll probably notice is that it will lose support earlier.
- scoopertrooper 5y agoThe step up to the A12 will be a pretty major boon for Apple Arcade. It'd have been nice to see a 'pro' option for an A12X or greater though.
- evo_9 5y agoIf you have an iOS device you can control your AppleTV from the TV Remote. I didn't notice this until recently and I never use the physical remote now. When you are prompted to type you can use your iOS device to type in text. Very handy. You can also control your AppleTV via Siri, but that's a bit more hit/miss depending on what you ask of course.
- javier2 5y agoI'm not sure. My Apple TV with A10X will often hang and generally the UI feels like its frame dropping every now and then. I would really like it to be smoother like my phone...