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Joe who? Seriously, I think that there are a number of reasons why this won't pan out as predicted: - There aren't really any tent-pole, must listen podcasts.

Joe who? Seriously, I think that there are a number of reasons why this won't pan out as predicted: - There aren't really any tent-pole, must listen podcasts. They thought Joe Rogan was one but I'm hearing a lot of people have stopped listening to him on Spotify (I have). - Spotify (and others) don't have the money to buy out the whole podcast ecosystem and many podcast makers I think would resist going Spotify exclusive. - I like my podcast player a lot and there is no way I'm giving it up for the inferior Spotify experience. I see podcasting as being more like YouTubing - sure there are outfits generating substantial revenue from advertising but many have more diverse revenue streams and reaching the largest audience is more important that an uplift in advertising revenue. Plus not everyone on YouTube is there for the $$$

rchaud 6y ago
Joe Rogan will occasionally have guests that attract people who wouldn't otherwise be interested in common JRE topics. In my case, it was podcasts with Billy Corgan and Shirley Manson (of Smashing Pumpkins and Garbage, respectively). I enjoyed those episodes a lot, plus a few he has with comedians I find funny. But it wasn't enough to make me subscribe. I doubt there is any podcast that I consider indispensable enough to subscribe.
- edgyquant 6y ago
  The only podcasts I listen religiously are the intelligence by the economist and revolutions by Mike Duncan. I can listen to the intelligence via the economist app and Revolutions is ending this year (and I get it through the standard podcast app on iOS.)
  - mdoms 6y ago
    The Intelligence is available as a regular old podcast feed too - all Economist podcasts are.
  - peteretep 6y ago
    The Economist's iOS app means I have started listening to their podcast many many many times without wanting to. Particularly irritated when browsing in bed next to a sleeping wife.
- kbenson 6y ago
  I have a few I've considered indispensable that have shifted over time. Reply All is consistently good (but I'm a couple months behind at this point, less podcast time). Dan Carlin's Hardcore History is a treat when it comes out, but that's like every 4-6 months usually. This is only a test from tested.com is good, and even though it's weekly it's topical enough I can skip a week or two and not feel like I need to go back and listen. My most recent favorite is Brad & Will Made a Tech Pod, which perfectly encapsulates that feeling I used to get when I sat down with a good friend and we started talking about/ranting about some interesting thing one of us did a deep dive on recently. Not that you actually asked. ;)
  - fargo 6y ago
    spoiler alert: reply all is unfortunately dead
    - kbenson 6y ago
      Well, that's sad. :/
  - alsetmusic 6y ago
    > My most recent favorite is Brad & Will Made a Tech Pod, which perfectly encapsulates that feeling I used to get when I sat down with a good friend and we started talking about/ranting about some interesting thing one of us did a deep dive on recently. You might enjoy Grumpy Old Geeks. I’ve been listening to the show for a couple of years. I recommend checking them out.
ThisIsTheWay 6y ago
I'll admit I'm a podcast novice, but what player are you using and what does it offer beyond Spotify? I find, download, and play podcasts through Spotify without issues, and the few features I need (speed adjustment, offline access, and show notes/links) are all available on Spotify. If there is a better way to listen, I'd love to hear about it.
- StavrosK 6y ago
  I use Pocket Casts. I just like it a lot, and I don't want to switch because it does everything I need. Spotify seems like it wouldn't be as configurable, but I haven't even felt the need to check. Plus, I don't like a monoculture.
  - tmh88j 6y ago
    >I just like it a lot, and I don't want to switch because it does everything I need. Spotify seems like it wouldn't be as configurable Maybe I'm missing out on part of the experience. What else is there to do with a podcast other than download/stream and listen? - Thanks for all the tips. I don't listen to a ton of podcasts but I'll give it a shot.
    - zomgwat 6y ago
      Chapter support is a nice feature when it's available. There are some podcasts that I listen to straight through. I skip around others.
    - atoombs 6y ago
      Not the parent commenter, but there's a lot of features I like out of Pocket Casts that Spotify doesn't do as well. - Queuing/auto-queuing to a next-up playlist (with features like add to start or add to end) - Faster playback (e.g. listening at 2x speed) - Alerts when new episodes drop to a given feed It's very configurable and works well. Also, I just dislike having to abandon my music queue when I listen to a podcast on Spotify. It's nice to have music playing at home, pause it, go for a walk listening to a podcast, finish the walk, then resume the same song/playlist at home.
tootie 6y ago
I don't follow Joe Rogan or really very many podcasts, and the ones I do are fairly topical. I'm not going to go relisten to old episodes the same way I would rewatch The Office. It really shifts the focus to creators and away from the IP. I don't think that's really a set in stone thing though, it's just the nature of the type of audio content that's popular right now.
redisman 6y ago
Rogan is fine (if dumb) light entertainment to have in the background. I haven’t listened to a single episode since the move now that it’s not on YouTube anymore. Spotify is also totally awful for podcasts as the UX is for a music player. Besides Lex now fills that hole with a lot more intelligence
- BitwiseFool 6y ago
  I've heard Joe Rogan jokingly refered to as "Oprah for middle aged white dudes".
  - rodgerd 6y ago
    If only he were Oprah. More like "Gwyneth Paltrow for bros".
    - rtsil 6y ago
      Painfully accurate.
    - 40four 6y ago
      Except Gwyneth and friends are emulating Rogan’s ‘model’ and applying it to the female audience. Rogan and his style of broadcasting were around for almost a decade before Goop decided to start podcasting & make a TV show. Pretty smart on their part honestly. When I saw the Netflix show, all I could think of is ‘This is JRE for women’. Even using some of the same guests, and topics Joe had already popularized.
  - qwaters 6y ago
    Rogan conducted decent interviews with Roger Penrose and Oliver Stone. It's not about Rogan, it is about the guests. His interviews are certainly less formulaic than Charlie Rose's, except when he inserts his favorite topics (just use fast forward ...).
  - valarauko 6y ago
    Sounds like something Merlin Mann might say on "Do By Friday"
username_my1 6y ago
Yeah I really wish there is a way to see the engagement with JRE on spotify ... on youtube it was immediately available (views count / comments / likes dislikes) ... in a sense youtube provided the end user with the content, a way to evaluate it (analytics) and ability to have a community around it (comment section). Spotify doesn't offer any of those.. I too was a daily JRE listener and not anymore, but the good news is that I feel like I upgraded by choosing more specialized podcasts based on my interests.
- kbenson 6y ago
  Yeah, youtube was my preferred way to consume JRE. I'm not one to put on a podcast in the background, because I don't like having something I find interesting going on while I'm trying to do other stuff that requires thought, and if it's not interesting why would I put it on? Having the interesting moments distilled into two to three 10-15 minute clips was ideal, and if I found the conversation really interesting I might try to watch the whole show for that day. ... I was under the impression they had stopped doing that, but I just checked and there are a lot of clips showing on PowerfulJRE, so maybe they just screwed up their recommendation rating? I just know that when they went to spotify I stopped getting them recommended to me, but there's been a few the last couple weeks now.
dominotw 6y ago
I stopped listening to rogan after spotify but he did a series of JRE MMA including one with GSP, those made me listen to spotify.
sexy_seedbox 6y ago
Lex Fridman's podcast is much better if you want something more intellectual.

rchaud 6y ago

Joe Rogan will occasionally have guests that attract people who wouldn't otherwise be interested in common JRE topics. In my case, it was podcasts with Billy Corgan and Shirley Manson (of Smashing Pumpkins and Garbage, respectively). I enjoyed those episodes a lot, plus a few he has with comedians I find funny. But it wasn't enough to make me subscribe. I doubt there is any podcast that I consider indispensable enough to subscribe.

edgyquant 6y ago
The only podcasts I listen religiously are the intelligence by the economist and revolutions by Mike Duncan. I can listen to the intelligence via the economist app and Revolutions is ending this year (and I get it through the standard podcast app on iOS.)
- mdoms 6y ago
  The Intelligence is available as a regular old podcast feed too - all Economist podcasts are.
- peteretep 6y ago
  The Economist's iOS app means I have started listening to their podcast many many many times without wanting to. Particularly irritated when browsing in bed next to a sleeping wife.
kbenson 6y ago
I have a few I've considered indispensable that have shifted over time. Reply All is consistently good (but I'm a couple months behind at this point, less podcast time). Dan Carlin's Hardcore History is a treat when it comes out, but that's like every 4-6 months usually. This is only a test from tested.com is good, and even though it's weekly it's topical enough I can skip a week or two and not feel like I need to go back and listen. My most recent favorite is Brad & Will Made a Tech Pod, which perfectly encapsulates that feeling I used to get when I sat down with a good friend and we started talking about/ranting about some interesting thing one of us did a deep dive on recently. Not that you actually asked. ;)
- fargo 6y ago
  spoiler alert: reply all is unfortunately dead
  - kbenson 6y ago
    Well, that's sad. :/
- alsetmusic 6y ago
  > My most recent favorite is Brad & Will Made a Tech Pod, which perfectly encapsulates that feeling I used to get when I sat down with a good friend and we started talking about/ranting about some interesting thing one of us did a deep dive on recently. You might enjoy Grumpy Old Geeks. I’ve been listening to the show for a couple of years. I recommend checking them out.

ThisIsTheWay 6y ago

I'll admit I'm a podcast novice, but what player are you using and what does it offer beyond Spotify? I find, download, and play podcasts through Spotify without issues, and the few features I need (speed adjustment, offline access, and show notes/links) are all available on Spotify. If there is a better way to listen, I'd love to hear about it.

StavrosK 6y ago
I use Pocket Casts. I just like it a lot, and I don't want to switch because it does everything I need. Spotify seems like it wouldn't be as configurable, but I haven't even felt the need to check. Plus, I don't like a monoculture.
- tmh88j 6y ago
  >I just like it a lot, and I don't want to switch because it does everything I need. Spotify seems like it wouldn't be as configurable Maybe I'm missing out on part of the experience. What else is there to do with a podcast other than download/stream and listen? - Thanks for all the tips. I don't listen to a ton of podcasts but I'll give it a shot.
  - zomgwat 6y ago
    Chapter support is a nice feature when it's available. There are some podcasts that I listen to straight through. I skip around others.
  - atoombs 6y ago
    Not the parent commenter, but there's a lot of features I like out of Pocket Casts that Spotify doesn't do as well. - Queuing/auto-queuing to a next-up playlist (with features like add to start or add to end) - Faster playback (e.g. listening at 2x speed) - Alerts when new episodes drop to a given feed It's very configurable and works well. Also, I just dislike having to abandon my music queue when I listen to a podcast on Spotify. It's nice to have music playing at home, pause it, go for a walk listening to a podcast, finish the walk, then resume the same song/playlist at home.

tootie 6y ago

I don't follow Joe Rogan or really very many podcasts, and the ones I do are fairly topical. I'm not going to go relisten to old episodes the same way I would rewatch The Office. It really shifts the focus to creators and away from the IP. I don't think that's really a set in stone thing though, it's just the nature of the type of audio content that's popular right now.

redisman 6y ago

Rogan is fine (if dumb) light entertainment to have in the background. I haven’t listened to a single episode since the move now that it’s not on YouTube anymore. Spotify is also totally awful for podcasts as the UX is for a music player. Besides Lex now fills that hole with a lot more intelligence

BitwiseFool 6y ago
I've heard Joe Rogan jokingly refered to as "Oprah for middle aged white dudes".
- rodgerd 6y ago
  If only he were Oprah. More like "Gwyneth Paltrow for bros".
  - rtsil 6y ago
    Painfully accurate.
  - 40four 6y ago
    Except Gwyneth and friends are emulating Rogan’s ‘model’ and applying it to the female audience. Rogan and his style of broadcasting were around for almost a decade before Goop decided to start podcasting & make a TV show. Pretty smart on their part honestly. When I saw the Netflix show, all I could think of is ‘This is JRE for women’. Even using some of the same guests, and topics Joe had already popularized.
- qwaters 6y ago
  Rogan conducted decent interviews with Roger Penrose and Oliver Stone. It's not about Rogan, it is about the guests. His interviews are certainly less formulaic than Charlie Rose's, except when he inserts his favorite topics (just use fast forward ...).
- valarauko 6y ago
  Sounds like something Merlin Mann might say on "Do By Friday"

username_my1 6y ago

Yeah I really wish there is a way to see the engagement with JRE on spotify ... on youtube it was immediately available (views count / comments / likes dislikes) ... in a sense youtube provided the end user with the content, a way to evaluate it (analytics) and ability to have a community around it (comment section). Spotify doesn't offer any of those.. I too was a daily JRE listener and not anymore, but the good news is that I feel like I upgraded by choosing more specialized podcasts based on my interests.

kbenson 6y ago
Yeah, youtube was my preferred way to consume JRE. I'm not one to put on a podcast in the background, because I don't like having something I find interesting going on while I'm trying to do other stuff that requires thought, and if it's not interesting why would I put it on? Having the interesting moments distilled into two to three 10-15 minute clips was ideal, and if I found the conversation really interesting I might try to watch the whole show for that day. ... I was under the impression they had stopped doing that, but I just checked and there are a lot of clips showing on PowerfulJRE, so maybe they just screwed up their recommendation rating? I just know that when they went to spotify I stopped getting them recommended to me, but there's been a few the last couple weeks now.

dominotw 6y ago

I stopped listening to rogan after spotify but he did a series of JRE MMA including one with GSP, those made me listen to spotify.

sexy_seedbox 6y ago

Lex Fridman's podcast is much better if you want something more intellectual.