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I assume you mean the riot, for which all the organization happened on Facebook, not Parler?

by saurik 6y ago

jamespo 6y ago
I guess that's partly why they're reinstating the app then
dataangel 6y ago
Parler users GPS data was leaked, showing Parler users deep in the capital during the insurrection: https://gizmodo.com/parler-users-breached-deep-inside-u-s-capitol-building-1846042905 https://gizmodo.com/parler-users-breached-deep-inside-u-s-ca... These geniuses were posting videos on Parler showing themselves during the insurrection.
SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
"All" isn't an accurate description. Much of it did happen on Facebook, and in response Facebook swiftly put in place new policies to prevent the situation from escalating. Unlike Facebook, Parler was unwilling to enact emergency measures, so instead emergency measures were enacted on them.
- saurik 6y ago
  FWIW, while I appreciate that you can technically pick at the word "all", if--as many people (I think correctly) believe--Parler was ancillary to the coordination (as in, without it existing the riot would certainly still have happened) but Facebook was key to it (as in, without it existing the riot might not have happened), I think the word "all" is appropriate, as that is how the word is used by actual English-speakers... think of the phrase "all of the nutrition in that meal is coming from the side of broccoli". Regardless, it doesn't seem like Facebook put in these supposed emergency policies anywhere near quickly enough, right? Here is an entire article talking about the nuances of blame here... I just really get the feeling like a big part of what happened with Parler was "big tech" realizing their own culpability and then having to organize around a scapegoat, lest anyone decided to come after them instead. https://www.salon.com/2021/01/16/despite-parler-backlash-facebook-played-huge-role-in-fueling-capitol-riot-watchdogs-say/ https://www.salon.com/2021/01/16/despite-parler-backlash-fac...
  - SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
    I don't think that's an entirely false description, and I'm certainly not trying to claim that Facebook (or Apple, to be more on point) is blameless. But the reason Parler was an effective scapegoat was their unwillingness to acknowledge a problem and work to fix it. So I'm not convinced that this specific sanction of this specific company is relevant to the larger trends.

I assume you mean the riot, for which all the organization happened on Facebook, not Parler?

by saurik 6y ago

I assume you mean the riot, for which all the organization happened on Facebook, not Parler?

jamespo 6y ago

I guess that's partly why they're reinstating the app then

dataangel 6y ago

Parler users GPS data was leaked, showing Parler users deep in the capital during the insurrection: https://gizmodo.com/parler-users-breached-deep-inside-u-s-capitol-building-1846042905 https://gizmodo.com/parler-users-breached-deep-inside-u-s-ca... These geniuses were posting videos on Parler showing themselves during the insurrection.

SpicyLemonZest 6y ago

"All" isn't an accurate description. Much of it did happen on Facebook, and in response Facebook swiftly put in place new policies to prevent the situation from escalating. Unlike Facebook, Parler was unwilling to enact emergency measures, so instead emergency measures were enacted on them.

saurik 6y ago
FWIW, while I appreciate that you can technically pick at the word "all", if--as many people (I think correctly) believe--Parler was ancillary to the coordination (as in, without it existing the riot would certainly still have happened) but Facebook was key to it (as in, without it existing the riot might not have happened), I think the word "all" is appropriate, as that is how the word is used by actual English-speakers... think of the phrase "all of the nutrition in that meal is coming from the side of broccoli". Regardless, it doesn't seem like Facebook put in these supposed emergency policies anywhere near quickly enough, right? Here is an entire article talking about the nuances of blame here... I just really get the feeling like a big part of what happened with Parler was "big tech" realizing their own culpability and then having to organize around a scapegoat, lest anyone decided to come after them instead. https://www.salon.com/2021/01/16/despite-parler-backlash-facebook-played-huge-role-in-fueling-capitol-riot-watchdogs-say/ https://www.salon.com/2021/01/16/despite-parler-backlash-fac...
- SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
  I don't think that's an entirely false description, and I'm certainly not trying to claim that Facebook (or Apple, to be more on point) is blameless. But the reason Parler was an effective scapegoat was their unwillingness to acknowledge a problem and work to fix it. So I'm not convinced that this specific sanction of this specific company is relevant to the larger trends.