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Of course they will, and who can blame them? When India has a choice between spending capital on more climate-friendly energy production versus improving educa

by runeks 6y ago

Of course they will, and who can blame them? When India has a choice between spending capital on more climate-friendly energy production versus improving education/health care/the conditions of the elderly, who can blame them for prioritizing the latter?

f6v 6y ago
They’re also going to spend the money on fighter jets, tanks, and nukes. Can’t blame them for that either, but anyway.
- Hypocritelefty 6y ago
  They can spend their money however they want. Why don't you and your country spend on erasing the carbon footprint up until now.
cpleppert 6y ago
It isn't just about prioritizing the latter. For india, Money spent on improving the economy or alleviating poverty goes a lot farther than spending on carbon neutral energy. For a rich western nation like germany? Not a lot of low hanging opportunities so might as well spend on green energy.
madaxe_again 6y ago
As a young person, who will have their health care and conditions negatively impacted by the economic and humanitarian disaster of climate change, I can blame them. They are prioritising older voters over younger ones. This tactic ends with a gerontocracy and ultimately no more humans.
- LifeIsThermal 6y ago
  That´s doomsday rhetoric. All doomsday cults have one thing in common, they´ve all been wrong. 100%. The climate doomsday cult is no different.
  - adrianN 6y ago
    Most previous doomsday cults had the handicap of having little to do with reality, whereas climate change is real and the predictions are getting scarier as we learn more about the climate system.
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  - mdrabla 6y ago
    you should know that "doomsday rhetoric" is backed by very solid climate science. Just check out the latest IPCC report if you dont believe me - we aren't going to make it below 2 degrees C warming and the implications of that alone are catastrophic. Just as an example, we're looking at hundreds of millions of climate refugees as things like drought and lower crop yields destabilize large regions. Even if you live in a country which avoids these types of trends, the refugees created can and will offer a massively destabilizing force to your home country. For reference, the Syrian refugee crisis was triggered by a record drought (which are becoming the new trend) and that created 1 million refugees. Just 1 million dramatically altered the course of domestic & international politics in the EU, imagine what HUNDREDS of millions will do. Climate change is THE existential threat of our generation. The only ones which will benefit long term from avoiding the problem are those with a vested interest in fossil fuel companies.
- qart 6y ago
  Which country do you live in? What is your average yearly per-capita CO₂ and CH₄? Anyway, I welcome you to India. Stay here for a few years. Live through peak summers with power-cuts due to load shedding. And then repeat your message.
  - adrianN 6y ago
    You're saying that as if there are no alternatives to coal. India could build solar panels or nuclear power instead.
    - qart 6y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_photovoltaic_power_stations#World's_largest_photovoltaic_power_stations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_photovoltaic_power_sta... India is already building plenty of solar parks. We still need a lot more power.
      - adrianN 6y ago
        Then build even more?
        qart 6y ago
        > "While India is committed to add more capacity through non-fossil sources of generation, coal-based generation capacity may still be required to be added in the country as it continues to be the cheapest source of generation," the NEP draft read. I don't want to wear a hair shirt while people in other countries wear the finest silks.
        adrianN 6y ago
        India is going to be hit really hard by climate change too. Coal is only the cheapest option if you don't count the costs of climate change.
        6y ago

by runeks 6y ago

f6v 6y ago

They’re also going to spend the money on fighter jets, tanks, and nukes. Can’t blame them for that either, but anyway.

Hypocritelefty 6y ago
They can spend their money however they want. Why don't you and your country spend on erasing the carbon footprint up until now.

cpleppert 6y ago

It isn't just about prioritizing the latter. For india, Money spent on improving the economy or alleviating poverty goes a lot farther than spending on carbon neutral energy. For a rich western nation like germany? Not a lot of low hanging opportunities so might as well spend on green energy.

madaxe_again 6y ago

As a young person, who will have their health care and conditions negatively impacted by the economic and humanitarian disaster of climate change, I can blame them. They are prioritising older voters over younger ones. This tactic ends with a gerontocracy and ultimately no more humans.

LifeIsThermal 6y ago
That´s doomsday rhetoric. All doomsday cults have one thing in common, they´ve all been wrong. 100%. The climate doomsday cult is no different.
- adrianN 6y ago
  Most previous doomsday cults had the handicap of having little to do with reality, whereas climate change is real and the predictions are getting scarier as we learn more about the climate system.
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
- mdrabla 6y ago
  you should know that "doomsday rhetoric" is backed by very solid climate science. Just check out the latest IPCC report if you dont believe me - we aren't going to make it below 2 degrees C warming and the implications of that alone are catastrophic. Just as an example, we're looking at hundreds of millions of climate refugees as things like drought and lower crop yields destabilize large regions. Even if you live in a country which avoids these types of trends, the refugees created can and will offer a massively destabilizing force to your home country. For reference, the Syrian refugee crisis was triggered by a record drought (which are becoming the new trend) and that created 1 million refugees. Just 1 million dramatically altered the course of domestic & international politics in the EU, imagine what HUNDREDS of millions will do. Climate change is THE existential threat of our generation. The only ones which will benefit long term from avoiding the problem are those with a vested interest in fossil fuel companies.
qart 6y ago
Which country do you live in? What is your average yearly per-capita CO₂ and CH₄? Anyway, I welcome you to India. Stay here for a few years. Live through peak summers with power-cuts due to load shedding. And then repeat your message.
- adrianN 6y ago
  You're saying that as if there are no alternatives to coal. India could build solar panels or nuclear power instead.
  - qart 6y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_photovoltaic_power_stations#World's_largest_photovoltaic_power_stations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_photovoltaic_power_sta... India is already building plenty of solar parks. We still need a lot more power.
    - adrianN 6y ago
      Then build even more?
      - qart 6y ago
        > "While India is committed to add more capacity through non-fossil sources of generation, coal-based generation capacity may still be required to be added in the country as it continues to be the cheapest source of generation," the NEP draft read. I don't want to wear a hair shirt while people in other countries wear the finest silks.
        adrianN 6y ago
        India is going to be hit really hard by climate change too. Coal is only the cheapest option if you don't count the costs of climate change.
        6y ago