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It's more alarming that people are spending this amount of money (aka deploying factory labor, conveyor belts, induction motors, plastic molding, heart rate scr

It's more alarming that people are spending this amount of money (aka deploying factory labor, conveyor belts, induction motors, plastic molding, heart rate screens, grid electricity) for the ability to run in place like a hamster.

Bancakes 6y ago
You get to run in a clean, climate controlled environment with near zero risk of body injury. Plus with all the covid lockdowns, this is one of the best cardio you can get.
- mhh__ 6y ago
  Is the treadmill not bad for your knees? (Obviously not as bad as concrete I guess but you get the point). I think rowing is some of the best cardio you can get, although I may be biased as a former rower
  - jedberg 6y ago
    Rowing is only slightly better for your knees than running. If you are worried about knees, swimming is the best cardio, because it puts almost no strain on your joints.
    - _huayra_ 6y ago
      Rowing is a lot closer to swimming than running, primarily because the load on your joints is dictated by the output of your muscles, whereas in running the load is primarily impacted by each of the small "falls back to Earth" you do with each step. That's not to say that improper rowing cannot cause injury, but the correct technique for rowing alleviates all of the injury-causing jolts to your joints that occur with each stride in running.
    - mhh__ 6y ago
      I took up fencing after I stopped rowing, which is apparently even worse, so maybe just do the opposite of whatever I say
  - Mountain_Skies 6y ago
    That's going to depend a lot on the design of the treadmill. Generally higher end models have some spring in them while the cheap stuff you can buy at Walmart is hard as a rock. For myself, I rarely run on the treadmill, I speed walk at an incline. It takes longer to get as good of a workout as running would but I usually watch videos while on it anyway which is more difficult when running due to more noise.
  - moneytide1 5y ago
    "...treadmills were used as punishment devices for people sentenced to hard labor in prisons."[0] To grind flour, hence mill. But that is the useful version of the concept. "Reverse treadmill" is what we should call the consumer product that cost emissions to produce&operate (simulate a "load" that needs to be pushed against by a citizen with no where to go). [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treadmill https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treadmill
jlund-molfese 6y ago
Treadmills make exercise a more viable option when it’s raining outside, you don’t want to worry about getting mugged at 11PM, or just don’t want to get dressed to go out. People who exercise more are often healthier, and health has all sorts of benefits on society.
matkoniecz 6y ago
Not everyone lives in place where running outside is feasible (for many reasons).
nemothekid 6y ago
You won't believe how much people pay to sit in place like a potato.

Bancakes 6y ago

You get to run in a clean, climate controlled environment with near zero risk of body injury. Plus with all the covid lockdowns, this is one of the best cardio you can get.

mhh__ 6y ago
Is the treadmill not bad for your knees? (Obviously not as bad as concrete I guess but you get the point). I think rowing is some of the best cardio you can get, although I may be biased as a former rower
- jedberg 6y ago
  Rowing is only slightly better for your knees than running. If you are worried about knees, swimming is the best cardio, because it puts almost no strain on your joints.
  - _huayra_ 6y ago
    Rowing is a lot closer to swimming than running, primarily because the load on your joints is dictated by the output of your muscles, whereas in running the load is primarily impacted by each of the small "falls back to Earth" you do with each step. That's not to say that improper rowing cannot cause injury, but the correct technique for rowing alleviates all of the injury-causing jolts to your joints that occur with each stride in running.
  - mhh__ 6y ago
    I took up fencing after I stopped rowing, which is apparently even worse, so maybe just do the opposite of whatever I say
- Mountain_Skies 6y ago
  That's going to depend a lot on the design of the treadmill. Generally higher end models have some spring in them while the cheap stuff you can buy at Walmart is hard as a rock. For myself, I rarely run on the treadmill, I speed walk at an incline. It takes longer to get as good of a workout as running would but I usually watch videos while on it anyway which is more difficult when running due to more noise.
- moneytide1 5y ago
  "...treadmills were used as punishment devices for people sentenced to hard labor in prisons."[0] To grind flour, hence mill. But that is the useful version of the concept. "Reverse treadmill" is what we should call the consumer product that cost emissions to produce&operate (simulate a "load" that needs to be pushed against by a citizen with no where to go). [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treadmill https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treadmill

jlund-molfese 6y ago

Treadmills make exercise a more viable option when it’s raining outside, you don’t want to worry about getting mugged at 11PM, or just don’t want to get dressed to go out. People who exercise more are often healthier, and health has all sorts of benefits on society.

matkoniecz 6y ago

Not everyone lives in place where running outside is feasible (for many reasons).

nemothekid 6y ago

You won't believe how much people pay to sit in place like a potato.