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Even though we're eons ahead in tech, especially mobile, 90's seem to have peaked a lot of ideas which we slowly iterated upon ever since. Not as many leaps sin

Even though we're eons ahead in tech, especially mobile, 90's seem to have peaked a lot of ideas which we slowly iterated upon ever since. Not as many leaps since, or any, outside of mobile.

fiddlerwoaroof 5y ago
I think “being ahead in tech” can mean two things: we’ve refined and improved iteratively in things like reliability, distributed computing and processor tech but, I don’t think we’ve really had a real novelty since the rise of the iPhone.
- Keyframe 5y ago
  That's what I meant. Seems like, well the feeling is that, there was this cambrian explosion of ideas that were just then possible to be materialized due to tech finally being able to, well materialize them into that cambrian explosion. Right now I cannot think of much / any tech outside of real of possibility with tech we have. Take VR as an example, which is still not there, it was there in the 90's. Crude and various approaches, but there. Since, we had iPhone/mobile and ML recently. I cannot think of other seemingly leaps. I might be wrong, of course, since it's all based on a feeling.
  - fiddlerwoaroof 5y ago
    I agree, although I don't know that ML is actually a "leap": my general impression is that a certain subset of "AI" techniques became practical because of GPU advances, which lead to an explosion of practical applications: the technique itself isn't particularly new, afaict.
GartzenDeHaes 5y ago
Check out the 1970's https://youtu.be/uknEhXyZgsg?t=1166 https://youtu.be/uknEhXyZgsg?t=1166
- Keyframe 5y ago
  Definitely. Lots of ideas from decades before, but started culminating in-front of our eyes during 90s in-front of general audience.
treeman79 5y ago
Blinking text, marquee, endless browsers pop ups that could not be stopped. Unable to quit a browser. Active X/Java. It was an awesome and horrible time.
- Keyframe 5y ago
  True, but interpretation/emohasis is wrong. Start with browser and web and then iterations on it. That's only part of everything.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  Endless browser popups just take a new form nowadays: cookie setting bullshit, websites asking for permissions to shit they don't need, newsletter signup popups, subscription popups, ads that relocate all the content you're trying to look at, ads that obscure the content until you tell them to fuck off...
  - temporallobe 5y ago
    > ads that relocate all the content This is a personal pet peeve that drives me nuts. Shifting content is irritating and just makes me want to avoid the site. The thing is, ads don’t HAVE to shift content - the site/app designer can account for these kinds of things with various techniques such as giving the ad area a fixed height so that when it loads it’s only filling in that dead space. Ads that obscure content deserve a special place in hell.
    - supernovae 5y ago
      Not all advertising networks are that great at ensuring normalized adverts and many choose the ad size with highest bid vs fitment... it does suck
  - tinus_hn 5y ago
    And then you close that site or navigate away. That is not a thing with pop-ups.
- 5y ago

Even though we're eons ahead in tech, especially mobile, 90's seem to have peaked a lot of ideas which we slowly iterated upon ever since. Not as many leaps since, or any, outside of mobile.

fiddlerwoaroof 5y ago

I think “being ahead in tech” can mean two things: we’ve refined and improved iteratively in things like reliability, distributed computing and processor tech but, I don’t think we’ve really had a real novelty since the rise of the iPhone.

Keyframe 5y ago
That's what I meant. Seems like, well the feeling is that, there was this cambrian explosion of ideas that were just then possible to be materialized due to tech finally being able to, well materialize them into that cambrian explosion. Right now I cannot think of much / any tech outside of real of possibility with tech we have. Take VR as an example, which is still not there, it was there in the 90's. Crude and various approaches, but there. Since, we had iPhone/mobile and ML recently. I cannot think of other seemingly leaps. I might be wrong, of course, since it's all based on a feeling.
- fiddlerwoaroof 5y ago
  I agree, although I don't know that ML is actually a "leap": my general impression is that a certain subset of "AI" techniques became practical because of GPU advances, which lead to an explosion of practical applications: the technique itself isn't particularly new, afaict.

GartzenDeHaes 5y ago

Check out the 1970's https://youtu.be/uknEhXyZgsg?t=1166 https://youtu.be/uknEhXyZgsg?t=1166

Keyframe 5y ago
Definitely. Lots of ideas from decades before, but started culminating in-front of our eyes during 90s in-front of general audience.

treeman79 5y ago

Blinking text, marquee, endless browsers pop ups that could not be stopped. Unable to quit a browser. Active X/Java. It was an awesome and horrible time.

Keyframe 5y ago
True, but interpretation/emohasis is wrong. Start with browser and web and then iterations on it. That's only part of everything.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
Endless browser popups just take a new form nowadays: cookie setting bullshit, websites asking for permissions to shit they don't need, newsletter signup popups, subscription popups, ads that relocate all the content you're trying to look at, ads that obscure the content until you tell them to fuck off...
- temporallobe 5y ago
  > ads that relocate all the content This is a personal pet peeve that drives me nuts. Shifting content is irritating and just makes me want to avoid the site. The thing is, ads don’t HAVE to shift content - the site/app designer can account for these kinds of things with various techniques such as giving the ad area a fixed height so that when it loads it’s only filling in that dead space. Ads that obscure content deserve a special place in hell.
  - supernovae 5y ago
    Not all advertising networks are that great at ensuring normalized adverts and many choose the ad size with highest bid vs fitment... it does suck
- tinus_hn 5y ago
  And then you close that site or navigate away. That is not a thing with pop-ups.
5y ago