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> Used to be the best way to get a job Java is the most in-demand technology in my home country, Estonia. Java also has around 800 open positions at any given

> Used to be the best way to get a job Java is the most in-demand technology in my home country, Estonia. Java also has around 800 open positions at any given time where I live now (Buenos Aires, Argentina). In fact, pretty much everywhere I've looked, Java is consistently one of the best ways to get a job simply because it has the most jobs available. HN favourites like Go and Rust? I haven't yet found a city in Europe that would have more than 10 job offerings for either of them.

nemothekid 6y ago
Go/Rust will get you hired in Silicon Valley working on "cool" teams. I believe a bunch of AWS teams are deep diving into Rust, and not to mention the hundreds of startups working in Go/Rust. However, the sausage is still made Java. Amazon, Google, and Apple are, as far as a I know, primarily Java shops. It's just no one ever starts a blog with "Here's something cool I did in Java".
- askonomm 6y ago
  Ah yes, I keep forgetting that HN folk are American-centric and often either do not know or forget that the vast majority of developers do not actually live there, or work for FAANG. Outside of USA, a little digging I did via Glassdoor: Buenos Aires, Argentina: - Rust: ~5 jobs - Go: ~3 jobs - Java: ~800 jobs Lisbon, Portugal: - Rust: ~6 jobs - Go: ~30 jobs - Java: ~278 jobs Barcelona, Spain: - Rust: ~1 job - Go: ~50 jobs - Java: ~751 jobs These are just places I've lived at and while I can see Go slowly becoming a thing, Rust is still half a decade away from anything tangible for the real world I would say. So if anyone asks me what should they become an expert in for the next 10 years, I would not hesitate to say Java.
  - disgruntledphd2 6y ago
    Yeah, I've been on HN for a decade now (back when Ruby was the new hotness), and I remember looking through the engineering jobs in Ireland and almost entirely Java and C#. Additionally, pretty much all the distributed data processing tools run on the JVM, which is a big deal if that's what you do for a living.
  - twic 6y ago
    Not just American-centric, but "Silicon Valley working on "cool" teams"-centric. Across all jobs in the US, Go and Rust are still a tiny share.
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loriverkutya 6y ago
Try London.

nemothekid 6y ago

Go/Rust will get you hired in Silicon Valley working on "cool" teams. I believe a bunch of AWS teams are deep diving into Rust, and not to mention the hundreds of startups working in Go/Rust. However, the sausage is still made Java. Amazon, Google, and Apple are, as far as a I know, primarily Java shops. It's just no one ever starts a blog with "Here's something cool I did in Java".

askonomm 6y ago
Ah yes, I keep forgetting that HN folk are American-centric and often either do not know or forget that the vast majority of developers do not actually live there, or work for FAANG. Outside of USA, a little digging I did via Glassdoor: Buenos Aires, Argentina: - Rust: ~5 jobs - Go: ~3 jobs - Java: ~800 jobs Lisbon, Portugal: - Rust: ~6 jobs - Go: ~30 jobs - Java: ~278 jobs Barcelona, Spain: - Rust: ~1 job - Go: ~50 jobs - Java: ~751 jobs These are just places I've lived at and while I can see Go slowly becoming a thing, Rust is still half a decade away from anything tangible for the real world I would say. So if anyone asks me what should they become an expert in for the next 10 years, I would not hesitate to say Java.
- disgruntledphd2 6y ago
  Yeah, I've been on HN for a decade now (back when Ruby was the new hotness), and I remember looking through the engineering jobs in Ireland and almost entirely Java and C#. Additionally, pretty much all the distributed data processing tools run on the JVM, which is a big deal if that's what you do for a living.
- twic 6y ago
  Not just American-centric, but "Silicon Valley working on "cool" teams"-centric. Across all jobs in the US, Go and Rust are still a tiny share.
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loriverkutya 6y ago

Try London.