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Just imagine how much Glyphosate has been dumped on that soil. Don't know if it's true but someone once told me nothing will grow in a corn field for 5 years af

Just imagine how much Glyphosate has been dumped on that soil. Don't know if it's true but someone once told me nothing will grow in a corn field for 5 years afterwards unless it is roundup ready. There has been a lot of talk lately we are like 60 harvests away from disaster. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/only-60-years-of-farming-left-if-soil-degradation-continues/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/only-60-years-of-... *Generating three centimeters of top soil takes 1,000 years* We are f...ed the way things are going. Might have to start gardening locally (back yard) or hope Indoor vertical farming takes off.

Scoundreller 6y ago
> Might have to start gardening locally (back yard) No reason not to start now depending on where you are. I grow for flavour and value not calories.
devmunchies 6y ago
i see neighbors using Glyphosate all the time. don't know how its even still sold in stores.
- ta988 6y ago
  Really simple. Heavy lobying and no public opposition.
- bluGill 6y ago
  It is about the safest chemical gardeners use. Check the safety data on the fertilizers they apply sometime.
giantg2 6y ago
I believe it takes 4 years after the end of applications before it can be certified organic. Stuff will grow the following year or so. I think the half life is 90 days. Plus farmers have to pay for the chemicals they spray and try to apply the right amount since over application would cost more. So it should resolve itself fairly fast.
bluGill 6y ago
Instead of repeating lies you can look this up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate half life is between 4 and 197 days. Glyphosate binds strongly to soil, so even when there is glyphosate in the soil it doesn't affect seeds in the ground but not growing yet.
dehrmann 6y ago
> Just imagine how much Glyphosate has been dumped on that soil. Found this: > A typical field half-life of 47 days has been suggested. > Glyphosate adsorbs tightly to soil. Glyphosate and its residues are expected to be immobile in soil. > The median half-life of glyphosate in water varies from a few days to 91 days. http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/archive/glyphotech.html#env http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/archive/glyphotech.html#env 5 years should be more like 2 years, but its direct impact on the soil is relatively short. We're not talking DDT or Agent Orange, here.
jws 6y ago
The recommendation is to wait one to three days after applying glyphosate to plant grass, herbs, or fruit. It mostly depends on what else is in the herbicide. You might wait a week for the previous plants to really die before cutting them off. When replacing areas of random noxious weeds with grain I wait three days after the glyphosate and have no problems with my regular old, low tech oats or barley. (I do grain because it gets tall kind of fast and helps choke out the next batch of weed seeds waiting to sprout, the birds like it, and it’s pretty when it gets dry and wavy.)
tastyfreeze 6y ago
Three centimeters in a thousand years is without any management. All soil is built through the process of succession. We can drastically speed up that process with regenerative ag practices.

Scoundreller 6y ago

> Might have to start gardening locally (back yard) No reason not to start now depending on where you are. I grow for flavour and value not calories.

devmunchies 6y ago

i see neighbors using Glyphosate all the time. don't know how its even still sold in stores.

ta988 6y ago
Really simple. Heavy lobying and no public opposition.
bluGill 6y ago
It is about the safest chemical gardeners use. Check the safety data on the fertilizers they apply sometime.

giantg2 6y ago

I believe it takes 4 years after the end of applications before it can be certified organic. Stuff will grow the following year or so. I think the half life is 90 days. Plus farmers have to pay for the chemicals they spray and try to apply the right amount since over application would cost more. So it should resolve itself fairly fast.

bluGill 6y ago

Instead of repeating lies you can look this up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate half life is between 4 and 197 days. Glyphosate binds strongly to soil, so even when there is glyphosate in the soil it doesn't affect seeds in the ground but not growing yet.

dehrmann 6y ago

> Just imagine how much Glyphosate has been dumped on that soil. Found this: > A typical field half-life of 47 days has been suggested. > Glyphosate adsorbs tightly to soil. Glyphosate and its residues are expected to be immobile in soil. > The median half-life of glyphosate in water varies from a few days to 91 days. http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/archive/glyphotech.html#env http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/archive/glyphotech.html#env 5 years should be more like 2 years, but its direct impact on the soil is relatively short. We're not talking DDT or Agent Orange, here.

jws 6y ago

The recommendation is to wait one to three days after applying glyphosate to plant grass, herbs, or fruit. It mostly depends on what else is in the herbicide. You might wait a week for the previous plants to really die before cutting them off. When replacing areas of random noxious weeds with grain I wait three days after the glyphosate and have no problems with my regular old, low tech oats or barley. (I do grain because it gets tall kind of fast and helps choke out the next batch of weed seeds waiting to sprout, the birds like it, and it’s pretty when it gets dry and wavy.)

tastyfreeze 6y ago

Three centimeters in a thousand years is without any management. All soil is built through the process of succession. We can drastically speed up that process with regenerative ag practices.