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>People haven't really grasped yet that the future of fitness isn't equipment it is ecosystems. You're right but I hate that future, to be honest. I don't rea

>People haven't really grasped yet that the future of fitness isn't equipment it is ecosystems. You're right but I hate that future, to be honest. I don't really want to buy a Garmin phone to talk to my Garmin watch so I can buy into their ecosystem. Apple watches may be fantastic but there are still better dedicated fitness watches out there and frankly the idea of a watch dictating my cellphone choice (as the Apple Watch does) makes me completely reject the idea of buying that watch.

rstupek 5y ago
I think the ecosystem being referred to isn't the device ecosystem but the "social network" sharing ecosystem
- newsclues 5y ago
  How long until device and social media networks are linked?
  - lancesells 5y ago
    They already are aren't they? Most social networks launch on iOS only at the beginning.
  - PeterisP 5y ago
    Oculus and Facebook is an indication of something like that; can't use your Oculus without your Facebook account.
- technofiend 5y ago
  Oh, you're right. I see that now. Having said that Apple isn't really big on cross-platform features either. I don't see a Facetime Android client, for example, and have no expectation they'd make Apple Fitness+ work on anything but their own devices; after all the byline is "Apple Fitness+ ... powered by Apple Watch." And since the watch requires their phone that's a big investment if you just want to exercise with friends.
  - skinnymuch 5y ago
    FaceTime was supposed to be open source or an open protocol (I think the latter) once upon a time a decade ago.
    - MBCook 5y ago
      My understanding of the story is Steve Jobs just decided to say that when he announced it without checking with the lawyers, and it probably ran into patent problems.
      - skinnymuch 5y ago
        Ah okay. I know he announced it without checking first. It would have been nice for Apple to clarify why it could not happen. Hard to give the corporation that just gutted advertising for other companies while now pumping their own ad network up, any benefit of the doubt that isn’t a cynical view.
  - dagmx 5y ago
    Fitness+ already integrates with third party devices via GymKit however.
  - 2muchcoffeeman 5y ago
    These sorts of things are probably going to appeal to people who just want a bit of a sweat. Everyone else is going to the gym because they don’t want to look at another screen, or they want to hang out with other people, or they realise you can’t learn to snatch from YouTube. Etc. Traditional gyms and activity aren’t going anywhere.
  - eric_h 5y ago
    > Having said that Apple isn't really big on cross-platform features either. While I generally agree with you, Apple is putting apple tv+ on roku - it's not a stretch to suggest they would use a similar strategy for fitness+: https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/13/22381067/apple-tv-plus-roku-remote-button-announced https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/13/22381067/apple-tv-plus-ro...

rstupek 5y ago

I think the ecosystem being referred to isn't the device ecosystem but the "social network" sharing ecosystem

newsclues 5y ago
How long until device and social media networks are linked?
- lancesells 5y ago
  They already are aren't they? Most social networks launch on iOS only at the beginning.
- PeterisP 5y ago
  Oculus and Facebook is an indication of something like that; can't use your Oculus without your Facebook account.
technofiend 5y ago
Oh, you're right. I see that now. Having said that Apple isn't really big on cross-platform features either. I don't see a Facetime Android client, for example, and have no expectation they'd make Apple Fitness+ work on anything but their own devices; after all the byline is "Apple Fitness+ ... powered by Apple Watch." And since the watch requires their phone that's a big investment if you just want to exercise with friends.
- skinnymuch 5y ago
  FaceTime was supposed to be open source or an open protocol (I think the latter) once upon a time a decade ago.
  - MBCook 5y ago
    My understanding of the story is Steve Jobs just decided to say that when he announced it without checking with the lawyers, and it probably ran into patent problems.
    - skinnymuch 5y ago
      Ah okay. I know he announced it without checking first. It would have been nice for Apple to clarify why it could not happen. Hard to give the corporation that just gutted advertising for other companies while now pumping their own ad network up, any benefit of the doubt that isn’t a cynical view.
- dagmx 5y ago
  Fitness+ already integrates with third party devices via GymKit however.
- 2muchcoffeeman 5y ago
  These sorts of things are probably going to appeal to people who just want a bit of a sweat. Everyone else is going to the gym because they don’t want to look at another screen, or they want to hang out with other people, or they realise you can’t learn to snatch from YouTube. Etc. Traditional gyms and activity aren’t going anywhere.
- eric_h 5y ago
  > Having said that Apple isn't really big on cross-platform features either. While I generally agree with you, Apple is putting apple tv+ on roku - it's not a stretch to suggest they would use a similar strategy for fitness+: https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/13/22381067/apple-tv-plus-roku-remote-button-announced https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/13/22381067/apple-tv-plus-ro...