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>The use of AI in the military is exempt, as are systems used by authorities in order to safeguard public security. Of course.

modeless 5y ago
The problem with government regulation of AI is that the biggest threat is government use of AI. Rules for thee but not for me!
- goatcode 5y ago
  Any governing body seems to leave a lot of room for "except for pigs" when they write down their rules. The bigger the body, the more potential pigs there are.
  - brobdingnagians 5y ago
    Your use of "pigs" reminds me of: "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
    - gramakri 5y ago
      It's meant to remind you of that quote :) because the rules are made by pigs in the book Animal farm. Your quote comes from the same book
- geraneum 5y ago
  Government (ab)use of AI is is of course a serious threat. But I’d say big corporations abuse of AI is even worse. Assuming we are talking about a democratic state, at least there are some checks and balances on governments whereas people cannot elect a FAANG CEO or go to a ‘.gov’ website to read a transcript of board meetings. Edit: I am by no means advocating for government’s use of AI in any form.
  - trutannus 5y ago
    A business can't lock you in a prison cell. I'd argue that the checks and balances at this point are little more than a mirage. Ruling by fiat is becoming more common, accountability less so. Government use of AI is far more menacing to me than a business using it.
    - cheschire 5y ago
      This is needlessly pedantic, but private prisons are absolutely a thing in America.
      - jaredsohn 5y ago
        The part that matters is what makes a person required to be in prison (i.e. government law / judicial system) and not who runs the prison.
      - trutannus 5y ago
        Of course, but the person who assigns you to that prison is still acting on behalf of the state. It would be correct to say that a business can keep you in a prison though!
      - bhupy 5y ago
        Although private prisons exist (in strikingly small numbers[1]), private corporations can't just decide to throw you into a private prison on a whim; the government decides that. [1] https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/private-prisons-united-states/ https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/private-priso...
        La1n 5y ago
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal Private prison kickbacks for conviction are a thing.
        5y ago
- joe_the_user 5y ago
  Government does regulate itself, sometimes. The proposal seems to be concerned with regulating the government, for example limiting "crime prediction". Also, the private institutions it's talking about are things like credit bureaus and employers large enough to use AI for screening employees.
  - goatcode 5y ago
    >for example limiting "crime prediction" I saw that too, and ended up wondering if it'll be ignored if it's seen that crime prediction falls under the "public safety" exception, from time to time (or eventually, altogether). That's the problem with vague things like "public safety" being tied to regulation, imo.
systemvoltage 5y ago
The AI race is in an unstable equilibrium. Slight perturbations of the initial conditions (slight advantage) will have consequential, exponential and final implications years later.

modeless 5y ago

The problem with government regulation of AI is that the biggest threat is government use of AI. Rules for thee but not for me!

goatcode 5y ago
Any governing body seems to leave a lot of room for "except for pigs" when they write down their rules. The bigger the body, the more potential pigs there are.
- brobdingnagians 5y ago
  Your use of "pigs" reminds me of: "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
  - gramakri 5y ago
    It's meant to remind you of that quote :) because the rules are made by pigs in the book Animal farm. Your quote comes from the same book
geraneum 5y ago
Government (ab)use of AI is is of course a serious threat. But I’d say big corporations abuse of AI is even worse. Assuming we are talking about a democratic state, at least there are some checks and balances on governments whereas people cannot elect a FAANG CEO or go to a ‘.gov’ website to read a transcript of board meetings. Edit: I am by no means advocating for government’s use of AI in any form.
- trutannus 5y ago
  A business can't lock you in a prison cell. I'd argue that the checks and balances at this point are little more than a mirage. Ruling by fiat is becoming more common, accountability less so. Government use of AI is far more menacing to me than a business using it.
  - cheschire 5y ago
    This is needlessly pedantic, but private prisons are absolutely a thing in America.
    - jaredsohn 5y ago
      The part that matters is what makes a person required to be in prison (i.e. government law / judicial system) and not who runs the prison.
    - trutannus 5y ago
      Of course, but the person who assigns you to that prison is still acting on behalf of the state. It would be correct to say that a business can keep you in a prison though!
    - bhupy 5y ago
      Although private prisons exist (in strikingly small numbers[1]), private corporations can't just decide to throw you into a private prison on a whim; the government decides that. [1] https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/private-prisons-united-states/ https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/private-priso...
      - La1n 5y ago
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal Private prison kickbacks for conviction are a thing.
        5y ago
joe_the_user 5y ago
Government does regulate itself, sometimes. The proposal seems to be concerned with regulating the government, for example limiting "crime prediction". Also, the private institutions it's talking about are things like credit bureaus and employers large enough to use AI for screening employees.
- goatcode 5y ago
  >for example limiting "crime prediction" I saw that too, and ended up wondering if it'll be ignored if it's seen that crime prediction falls under the "public safety" exception, from time to time (or eventually, altogether). That's the problem with vague things like "public safety" being tied to regulation, imo.

systemvoltage 5y ago

The AI race is in an unstable equilibrium. Slight perturbations of the initial conditions (slight advantage) will have consequential, exponential and final implications years later.