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"the cherished underbelly of the web" So your answer is in your question. Most people don't really want to deal with the 'cherished underbelly'. Also, there'

by jariel 6y ago

"the cherished underbelly of the web" So your answer is in your question. Most people don't really want to deal with the 'cherished underbelly'. Also, there's 'adult' and then there's stuff that goes way beyond that, that even freedom types would not want to be randomly confronted with, even if they reasoned for it's right to exist. iOS is a Shopping Mall "No Porn Stores Here Please". If this were a question of governmental or bans in the web, that would be a different kind of question entirely.

sellyme 6y ago
> iOS is a Shopping Mall "No Porn Stores Here Please". Most shopping malls I go to don't block me from entering any malls that they don't own. It astounds me how many people are willing to give Apple a free pass on this inexcusable behaviour. Microsoft got the crap sued out of them just for pre-installing IE on a bunch of computers, imagine if they also tried to make it impossible to install any competing browsers, and tried to claim that it was illegal to wipe the OS and install Linux instead!
- jariel 6y ago
  Yes, if Apple allowed people to download apps that would change the narrative completely. I'm not defending Apple's behaviour, I'm explaining it. If we assume as a starting position that they want a 'closed universe' then their content policy is sensible, even if the 'closed universe' policy is not.
wink 5y ago
You're overlooking the fact that tons of people around the globe (in different jurisdictions) just label their content 18+ by default just in order to not be liable for anything that could be construed as "not for minors". And I really mean anything completely tame by most of civilized countries standards, let's say swearing or pixel blood. Of course this isn't a great solution but if you don't create your content to cater to the mass market by default, but just to put it out there, it's suddenly not your problem anymore if anyone under 18 clicks through the "I am over 18" banner. Yes, it's stupid but my point is - just because it's labeled NSFW this doesn't really mean there is anything that sensible adults would deem NSFW.
- jariel 5y ago
  I'm not overlooking it, we all fully realize these things are complicated and nuanced, especially things like comments and speech. Just because things are 'grey' doesn't mean we don't draw lines 'somewhere' and try to have a policy.
thiht 5y ago
> iOS is a Shopping Mall "No Porn Stores Here Please". That's fair. Where are the other shopping malls though?

by jariel 6y ago

sellyme 6y ago

> iOS is a Shopping Mall "No Porn Stores Here Please". Most shopping malls I go to don't block me from entering any malls that they don't own. It astounds me how many people are willing to give Apple a free pass on this inexcusable behaviour. Microsoft got the crap sued out of them just for pre-installing IE on a bunch of computers, imagine if they also tried to make it impossible to install any competing browsers, and tried to claim that it was illegal to wipe the OS and install Linux instead!

jariel 6y ago
Yes, if Apple allowed people to download apps that would change the narrative completely. I'm not defending Apple's behaviour, I'm explaining it. If we assume as a starting position that they want a 'closed universe' then their content policy is sensible, even if the 'closed universe' policy is not.

wink 5y ago

You're overlooking the fact that tons of people around the globe (in different jurisdictions) just label their content 18+ by default just in order to not be liable for anything that could be construed as "not for minors". And I really mean anything completely tame by most of civilized countries standards, let's say swearing or pixel blood. Of course this isn't a great solution but if you don't create your content to cater to the mass market by default, but just to put it out there, it's suddenly not your problem anymore if anyone under 18 clicks through the "I am over 18" banner. Yes, it's stupid but my point is - just because it's labeled NSFW this doesn't really mean there is anything that sensible adults would deem NSFW.

jariel 5y ago
I'm not overlooking it, we all fully realize these things are complicated and nuanced, especially things like comments and speech. Just because things are 'grey' doesn't mean we don't draw lines 'somewhere' and try to have a policy.

thiht 5y ago

> iOS is a Shopping Mall "No Porn Stores Here Please". That's fair. Where are the other shopping malls though?