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Is anyone else tired of the internet being taken over by fucking puritans of one stripe or another?
by betwixthewires 6y ago
Is anyone else tired of the internet being taken over by fucking puritans of one stripe or another?
- stuffbyspencer 6y agoSay what you will about the crypto & blockchain scene, but I can't fucking wait for us to move over to it more & start adopting more tamper-resistant decentralization standards... One can hope
- teraku 6y agoWhy is everyone trying to find technical solutions for societal problems?
- betwixthewires 6y agoBecause there are some technical solutions to some societal problems. Are there technical solutions to the ones we are discussing? Possibly, possibly not, you don't know until you look.
- worldsayshi 6y agoBecause technology is something they feel they can have an impact on.
- manojlds 6y agoI mean are we just going to ask people to mask up and social distance and not work on a vaccine?
- arcticbull 6y agoThose are both useful solutions that work together to solve the problem. This is a poor example.
- programmarchy 6y agoTechnology is the first mover in human affairs.
- betwixthewires 6y agoThat's a truism. Could be true, could be untrue, it is unfalsifiable. Do you have any elaboration that would demonstrate this?
- montagg 6y agoIt’s not “Social News.”
- trhway 6y agothe societal problems are solvable only through technology. At least that is the main premise of Das Kapital - the progress in the tools and means of production is what drives societal progress. I dare you to name a societal problem which was solved independently of the technological advancement state of the time, i.e. a problem that could have been solved the same way with a significantly regressed state of technology when at the time of its actual solution.
- wayneftw 6y agoProhibition of alcohol
- trhway 6y agoi don't understand what societal problem you do you mean here - the prohibition or the alcohol. If you mean that the societal problem was the prohibition then we do know that it was solved by the bootlegging at a massive scale which relied on using cars and machine guns with modern communication of the time - telephone - playing a significant role too. If you mean that the problem was alcohol - i don't see where and when it was solved at all.
- wayneftw 6y agoBad laws were the problem, caused by societal pearl clutching. The prohibition of alcohol was solved by repealing it, not by cars and machine guns. If cars and machine guns solved prohibition, then no substance would have ever been prohibited after alcohol. Those were not solutions. Today we're still solving prohibition of substances, starting with marijuana, by simply repealing bad laws.
- trhway 6y agoBad laws become "bad" and get repealed when they become untenable to maintain. Cars, boats, planes, guns, drones, global financial system, crypto, social media, scientific development of our understanding of addiction - it all leads to the untenability of the current drug regime and the resulting progressive decriminalization we see.
- sellyme 6y ago> I can't fucking wait for us to move over to it It's been nearly 15 years and it's still almost exclusively a buzzword used by scammers. It'll happen some time after the Year of the Linux Desktop.
- thiht 6y agoHow's that even related?
- beached_whale 6y agoHistory and the trends suggest that we are moving to more centralized and controled systems. Prior to social media, a mere 10-15 years ago, there were far more blogs and self hosted sites in proportion.
- betwixthewires 6y agoBut there's no reason to believe this is unidirectional and self reinforcing. There are plenty of trends that went on long enough that whole generations were born with them as the status quo, only for them to be reversed or changed. Feudalism went on for hundreds of years.
- beached_whale 6y agoThere are financial large incentives to centralize though. That needs to change, look at the infra that is hosted on the cloud and what depends on that.
- marakv2 6y agoIt seems the more advertising gets involved, the less we are able to express ourselves. Want to talk about sex? Pfft not if you want advertising! PG-13 only! Depressing.
- nanagojo 6y agoThis was Steve Job's personal vendetta actually, he exchanged quite a bit of emails with bloggers/journalist asking why R18+ stuff wasn't allowed on the app store. He was very much anti-porn.
- seriousquestion 6y agoDiscord has one of the worst set of puritans. They banned WSB due to "harmful language".
- wyattpeak 6y agoThey banned wallstreetbets to get out of the firing line before the senate hearing. It was weak, but I don't think it was motivated by anything approaching a moral imperative, it seemed entirely pragmatic.
- adamcstephens 6y agoThis. Banning to satisfy the party in power is now the new normal.
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- paxys 6y agoWalled garden apologists here come out in droves whenever Apple is mentioned. People still strongly support them through the multiple app/update bans (Hey and others), the Epic lawsuit, EU investigation, US Senate hearings, Spotify/Facebok fights and more. After all this the same people cry about excessive online moderation, porn bans and internet freedom. I'm sorry but internet freedom is dead. You killed it with your own wallet.