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I've recently broken into GN ranks on CSGO and am watching suspected cheats ... I can only think the first dozen videos are a test of me, because algorithmicall

I've recently broken into GN ranks on CSGO and am watching suspected cheats ... I can only think the first dozen videos are a test of me, because algorithmically spotting the cheating seems like it would be super easy. About half of mine so far only look at the floor, get only awp headshots. I mean, really? I guess scammers money is just as green. There are loads of farming accounts that just walk in a circle. Why do they put those players in matches with real players. If you're not going to ban them then at least honeypot them. All seems needlessly lackadaisical.

noxvilleza 6y ago
Yeah, and annoyingly the paid platforms (like, FACEIT) have way fewer obvious cheaters - but also (due to the increased competition) a lot of subtle ones. Part of the problem is also related to the game going free-to-play, instead of taxing cheaters through time & cash, it's just time.
- sodality2 6y ago
  Faceit AC is technologically superior, it's not just the payment on-boarding. The cheats for faceit cost $200+ and are all private. There are free, open source, undetected cheats for CSGO that are VAC undetected for 4+ years. The difference is staggering
  - noxvilleza 6y ago
    Agree on all counts - I'm just saying that if you dislike losing to obvious spinbots, then FACEIT is much better - but still have many (less obvious) hackers. [On the topic of cheating, and as a comparison to CS:GO ... ] What's hilarious really is how common and in plain sight the Dota 2 cheats are: there are loads of cheat engines which people can even write their own Lua scripts to manage: and are hosted on Github. They have VK pages, customer support, registered companies, online reviews ... zero legal action taken against any of these companies that I'm aware of - and very limited work done to make the cheating more difficult.
    - sodality2 6y ago
      Yeah, valve just doesn't care in the slightest, it doesn't require a kernel AC, but the slightest of changes could get tens of thousands of people banned using a free public cheat.... Faceit is essentially the gold standard to be honest. definitely it if you want a higher level of gameplay without cheaters. Wish there was a faceit for silvers, though
willis936 6y ago
An unknown number of overwatch matches are not recent games, but landmarks for behavior. Indeed you are being tested far more than you are training the system.

noxvilleza 6y ago

Yeah, and annoyingly the paid platforms (like, FACEIT) have way fewer obvious cheaters - but also (due to the increased competition) a lot of subtle ones. Part of the problem is also related to the game going free-to-play, instead of taxing cheaters through time & cash, it's just time.

sodality2 6y ago
Faceit AC is technologically superior, it's not just the payment on-boarding. The cheats for faceit cost $200+ and are all private. There are free, open source, undetected cheats for CSGO that are VAC undetected for 4+ years. The difference is staggering
- noxvilleza 6y ago
  Agree on all counts - I'm just saying that if you dislike losing to obvious spinbots, then FACEIT is much better - but still have many (less obvious) hackers. [On the topic of cheating, and as a comparison to CS:GO ... ] What's hilarious really is how common and in plain sight the Dota 2 cheats are: there are loads of cheat engines which people can even write their own Lua scripts to manage: and are hosted on Github. They have VK pages, customer support, registered companies, online reviews ... zero legal action taken against any of these companies that I'm aware of - and very limited work done to make the cheating more difficult.
  - sodality2 6y ago
    Yeah, valve just doesn't care in the slightest, it doesn't require a kernel AC, but the slightest of changes could get tens of thousands of people banned using a free public cheat.... Faceit is essentially the gold standard to be honest. definitely it if you want a higher level of gameplay without cheaters. Wish there was a faceit for silvers, though

willis936 6y ago

An unknown number of overwatch matches are not recent games, but landmarks for behavior. Indeed you are being tested far more than you are training the system.