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The M1 and 5850U are in the same laptop price range. But I agree on the single-thread, it's indeed 12% faster.

coldtea 6y ago
How come I see Geenbench 5 scopes pining the M1 as 20% faster?
toolz 6y ago
I recently bought a lenovo ideapad (ultrabook form factor) for under $900USD with a 5700u 16GB ram 512 nvme https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Apple-M1-8-Core-3200-MHz-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5700U/4104vs4156 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Apple-M1-8-Core-3200-MH... I'd say AMD is really blowing the M1 laptops out of the water at half the price and more performance.
- emilsedgh 6y ago
  What exact model did you get if you don't mind me asking?
  - toolz 6y ago
    huh, apparently price went up $150 since I bought it https://www.newegg.com/lenovo-flex-5-15alc05-82hv0000us-graphite-grey/p/N82E16834645482 https://www.newegg.com/lenovo-flex-5-15alc05-82hv0000us-grap... edit: wow price went way up actually - I paid $790 https://i.imgur.com/aBamY5l.png https://i.imgur.com/aBamY5l.png
- Ayesh 6y ago
  I recently bought a Lenovo Legion 5 (4800H, 512GB, 16GB, 1660ti) for around $1200 after checking the 4700u ideapad. This was before the Ryzen 5000 series launch, so I suppose the Legion 5 is around $900 mark these days. Many OEMs don't really give a good thermal headroom for the AMD processors, and only Lenovo seems to have done it right. Lenovo's stock management sucks though. There were no stock for many days, and had to go unorthodox methods to get my hands on a unit.
- scoopertrooper 6y ago
  Keep in mind only four of those cores on the M1 mac are performance cores. A M1 Mac with 8 performance cores would blow that thing out of the water based on how close they already are.
  - hu3 6y ago
    It would consume more power too. It's remarkable that AMD can even compete despite not having access to 5nm like the M1 does. I'm very excited for the near future of 5nm AMD laptops. Even more for 3nm.
  - michaelmrose 6y ago
    It seems incredibly likely that such a product would be reserved for the highest end models for example the MacBook Pro and Mac Pro starting at 2400 and 6k respectively and would be properly compared to high end laptops that like the example don't exist yet. It's nice to see the CPU space heating up in recent years.
- artificialLimbs 6y ago
  How's the heat? My Inspiron 5505 w/ a 4700U gets egg frying hot under load. (edit: Not precision, is inspiron.)
- epmaybe 6y ago
  I bought my m1 MacBook Air for $800, and while it doesn’t have 512gb nvme or 16gb ram it compares a lot better than ‘half the price’
BugsJustFindMe 6y ago
> The M1 and 5850U are in the same laptop price range. Where? The only 5850U laptop I can find is the HP EliteBook 845 G8, and that starts at over $2300 for a 5850U model.

How come I see Geenbench 5 scopes pining the M1 as 20% faster?

I recently bought a lenovo ideapad (ultrabook form factor) for under $900USD with a 5700u 16GB ram 512 nvme https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Apple-M1-8-Core-3200-MHz-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5700U/4104vs4156 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Apple-M1-8-Core-3200-MH... I'd say AMD is really blowing the M1 laptops out of the water at half the price and more performance.

emilsedgh 6y ago
What exact model did you get if you don't mind me asking?
- toolz 6y ago
  huh, apparently price went up $150 since I bought it https://www.newegg.com/lenovo-flex-5-15alc05-82hv0000us-graphite-grey/p/N82E16834645482 https://www.newegg.com/lenovo-flex-5-15alc05-82hv0000us-grap... edit: wow price went way up actually - I paid $790 https://i.imgur.com/aBamY5l.png https://i.imgur.com/aBamY5l.png
Ayesh 6y ago
I recently bought a Lenovo Legion 5 (4800H, 512GB, 16GB, 1660ti) for around $1200 after checking the 4700u ideapad. This was before the Ryzen 5000 series launch, so I suppose the Legion 5 is around $900 mark these days. Many OEMs don't really give a good thermal headroom for the AMD processors, and only Lenovo seems to have done it right. Lenovo's stock management sucks though. There were no stock for many days, and had to go unorthodox methods to get my hands on a unit.
scoopertrooper 6y ago
Keep in mind only four of those cores on the M1 mac are performance cores. A M1 Mac with 8 performance cores would blow that thing out of the water based on how close they already are.
- hu3 6y ago
  It would consume more power too. It's remarkable that AMD can even compete despite not having access to 5nm like the M1 does. I'm very excited for the near future of 5nm AMD laptops. Even more for 3nm.
- michaelmrose 6y ago
  It seems incredibly likely that such a product would be reserved for the highest end models for example the MacBook Pro and Mac Pro starting at 2400 and 6k respectively and would be properly compared to high end laptops that like the example don't exist yet. It's nice to see the CPU space heating up in recent years.
artificialLimbs 6y ago
How's the heat? My Inspiron 5505 w/ a 4700U gets egg frying hot under load. (edit: Not precision, is inspiron.)
epmaybe 6y ago
I bought my m1 MacBook Air for $800, and while it doesn’t have 512gb nvme or 16gb ram it compares a lot better than ‘half the price’

BugsJustFindMe 6y ago

> The M1 and 5850U are in the same laptop price range. Where? The only 5850U laptop I can find is the HP EliteBook 845 G8, and that starts at over $2300 for a 5850U model.