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Interesting data. I’ll just mention that if you are looking at changing layouts and are concerned about cut, copy, paste and undo, don’t be. Within a year it wo

Interesting data. I’ll just mention that if you are looking at changing layouts and are concerned about cut, copy, paste and undo, don’t be. Within a year it won’t bother you to be typing X, C and V with different fingers.

danpalmer 6y ago
Agreed, mostly. I used the Dvorak-Command-QWERTY layout on macOS for a long time, it's Dvorak but flips back to QWERTY when you hold Command so that most shortcuts are in the same physical position. After getting a programmable split keyboard it became too much work to get a similar thing to work so I decided to switch shortcuts to where they should be. It's been... ok. The positions of shortcuts definitely encode something that you lose, copy/paste not being next to each other is slightly annoying, and not to mention that some shortcuts move in such a way that the failure mode of getting the shortcut wrong is really bad (e.g. Cmd+, for preferences, get it wrong and you Cmd+W which closes the active window). I'm glad I've switched, but I'm also glad that I didn't switch my shortcuts at the same time that I switched to Dvorak, I think it could have been enough to put me off. Or I guess it might have been easier to do it all at once! One thing that is annoying with the hybrid approach is some software just doesn't support it (I'm looking at you JetBrains, with your 10 year old issue on your issue tracker).
- samus 6y ago
  The AutoHotkey Script I use on Windows works very well in almost all applications. But in IntelliJ on Windows (not in Linux) it happens multiple times per hour that Shift, Ctrl or Alt locks get engaged (which I didn't know even existed) or that the Script reverts to Qwerty without warning. Restarting the script helps, but it's so annoying that I consider running IntelliJ with an external JRE.
  - samus 6y ago
    Result: running IntelliJ with an external JDK didn't help :/

danpalmer 6y ago

Agreed, mostly. I used the Dvorak-Command-QWERTY layout on macOS for a long time, it's Dvorak but flips back to QWERTY when you hold Command so that most shortcuts are in the same physical position. After getting a programmable split keyboard it became too much work to get a similar thing to work so I decided to switch shortcuts to where they should be. It's been... ok. The positions of shortcuts definitely encode something that you lose, copy/paste not being next to each other is slightly annoying, and not to mention that some shortcuts move in such a way that the failure mode of getting the shortcut wrong is really bad (e.g. Cmd+, for preferences, get it wrong and you Cmd+W which closes the active window). I'm glad I've switched, but I'm also glad that I didn't switch my shortcuts at the same time that I switched to Dvorak, I think it could have been enough to put me off. Or I guess it might have been easier to do it all at once! One thing that is annoying with the hybrid approach is some software just doesn't support it (I'm looking at you JetBrains, with your 10 year old issue on your issue tracker).

samus 6y ago
The AutoHotkey Script I use on Windows works very well in almost all applications. But in IntelliJ on Windows (not in Linux) it happens multiple times per hour that Shift, Ctrl or Alt locks get engaged (which I didn't know even existed) or that the Script reverts to Qwerty without warning. Restarting the script helps, but it's so annoying that I consider running IntelliJ with an external JRE.
- samus 6y ago
  Result: running IntelliJ with an external JDK didn't help :/