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The paperwork that nervous HR makes American managers go through is an entirely different world then the process, say, a police officer or teacher is entitled t
by bradleyjg 6y ago
The paperwork that nervous HR makes American managers go through is an entirely different world then the process, say, a police officer or teacher is entitled to be a combination of civil service laws and their collective bargaining agreements. I do not exaggerate when I say it is in practice easier to put someone in prison than fire a police officer.
So partly whether or not it would be a good idea would depend on the details of the proposed law, and how they would end up being interpreted by judges.
- disgruntledphd2 6y agoI'm not actually talking about public service unions here, just at-will employment. I personally think that lots of people in this conversation seem to believe that it's either at-will, or the public sector process when in fact the European experience demonstrates that there's a lot of space between these two opposite poles. My position is that given all this HR dance to prevent lawsuits, at-will doesn't really exist in professional jobs, so it might be worth ensuring that this is standard across all roles rather than just those where the fired employee might sue.
- bradleyjg 6y agoIf I felt confident that the law as written and applied would end up putting in place more or less what I’ve seen in corporate America: - Do something egregious like steal or curse out a customer and you’ll be escorted off the premises - For poor performance you can get a write up and a meaningful chance to improve before being fired - You can be laid off just because your department / function / office isn’t needed anymore but they do something for you severance-wise I’d support a legal change.