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How was he part of the "insurrection" if he did nothing illegal?

WarOnPrivacy 6y ago
It's possible the insurrection claims were just crap that he made up. It seems likely the FBI would have been dealing with him back in January, if he were part of the group trying to overthrow the election.
- mschuster91 6y ago
  The FBI was focused on finding those who had achieved notoriety - e.g. the dude with the confederate flag, the guys with zip-ties, or those who vandalized / looted the building.
krapp 6y ago
For the same reason a getaway driver is part of a bank robbery despite "not doing anything illegal."
- readflaggedcomm 6y ago
  Aiding and abetting of a getaway driver is more involved than a bystander watching a tour group jump the velvet rope.
  - krapp 6y ago
    Perhaps, but calling them a tour group is specious. Their social media posts, testimony and beating of a police officer to death clearly indicates otherwise. And while the suspect didn't admit to anything incriminating while in Washington, according to the article, it seems unlikely that someone who posts about their mass destruction plans on a right-wing militia forum would just coincidentally have been there sightseeing while an insurrection (or, charitably, an attempt at one) was underway.
    - readflaggedcomm 6y ago
      They stole electronics, but the coroner's decision* is still out on the cop. * https://twitter.com/AugensteinWTOP/status/1379866731666153472 https://twitter.com/AugensteinWTOP/status/137986673166615347...
      - deleted 6y ago
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      - readflaggedcomm 6y ago
        I guess proof is unwanted here.
- makomk 6y ago
  The whole reason a getaway driver exists is to help people conduct a bank robbery, whereas just protesting outside Congress is not only legal but constitutionally protected. By that logic, the elected Democrat officials who continued to attend BLM "protests" night after night knowing that every night, people at those specific "protests" were violently attacking cops using them as cover were much more criminal - yet the mainstream American press never applied this logic to them because the whole thing is just partisan bullshit.
  - rvz 6y ago
    You know the rule here and especially on sites like this one. Logic and hypocrisy doesn't apply to the left; only to anything against them which is only the 'far-right'. As for BLM, don't worry. All those who donated millions to the BLM cause have just funded the lifestyle of their dear founder for her $1.4M LA home. So much for the so-called 'Marxist revolution' that they all desperately needed. There's a term called for this and its called 'an exit scam'. [0] https://www.dailywire.com/news/blm-co-founder-buys-1-4-million-home-in-virtually-all-white-area-black-commentators-slam-her https://www.dailywire.com/news/blm-co-founder-buys-1-4-milli...
- refurb 6y ago
  Jesus. Just showing up at a rally at your elected representatives place of employment is now the same as “being a getaway driver at a bank robbery”?
  - tw04 6y ago
    Given that he said he attended the riot, and was disappointed people didn't show up armed, I think it's pretty obvious what his intent was. Let's not pretend he was some innocent bystander just there for a political rally. Whether he actually entered or did not is open to interpretation given that's just what he said unless there's actual evidence by way of pictures confirming he was even at the riot in the first place. A LOT of people said they didn't go inside once they discovered they'd potentially be facing prison time for doing so. A LOT of people lied.

It's possible the insurrection claims were just crap that he made up. It seems likely the FBI would have been dealing with him back in January, if he were part of the group trying to overthrow the election.

mschuster91 6y ago
The FBI was focused on finding those who had achieved notoriety - e.g. the dude with the confederate flag, the guys with zip-ties, or those who vandalized / looted the building.

krapp 6y ago

For the same reason a getaway driver is part of a bank robbery despite "not doing anything illegal."

readflaggedcomm 6y ago
Aiding and abetting of a getaway driver is more involved than a bystander watching a tour group jump the velvet rope.
- krapp 6y ago
  Perhaps, but calling them a tour group is specious. Their social media posts, testimony and beating of a police officer to death clearly indicates otherwise. And while the suspect didn't admit to anything incriminating while in Washington, according to the article, it seems unlikely that someone who posts about their mass destruction plans on a right-wing militia forum would just coincidentally have been there sightseeing while an insurrection (or, charitably, an attempt at one) was underway.
  - readflaggedcomm 6y ago
    They stole electronics, but the coroner's decision* is still out on the cop. * https://twitter.com/AugensteinWTOP/status/1379866731666153472 https://twitter.com/AugensteinWTOP/status/137986673166615347...
    - deleted 6y ago
      [deleted]
    - readflaggedcomm 6y ago
      I guess proof is unwanted here.
makomk 6y ago
The whole reason a getaway driver exists is to help people conduct a bank robbery, whereas just protesting outside Congress is not only legal but constitutionally protected. By that logic, the elected Democrat officials who continued to attend BLM "protests" night after night knowing that every night, people at those specific "protests" were violently attacking cops using them as cover were much more criminal - yet the mainstream American press never applied this logic to them because the whole thing is just partisan bullshit.
- rvz 6y ago
  You know the rule here and especially on sites like this one. Logic and hypocrisy doesn't apply to the left; only to anything against them which is only the 'far-right'. As for BLM, don't worry. All those who donated millions to the BLM cause have just funded the lifestyle of their dear founder for her $1.4M LA home. So much for the so-called 'Marxist revolution' that they all desperately needed. There's a term called for this and its called 'an exit scam'. [0] https://www.dailywire.com/news/blm-co-founder-buys-1-4-million-home-in-virtually-all-white-area-black-commentators-slam-her https://www.dailywire.com/news/blm-co-founder-buys-1-4-milli...
refurb 6y ago
Jesus. Just showing up at a rally at your elected representatives place of employment is now the same as “being a getaway driver at a bank robbery”?
- tw04 6y ago
  Given that he said he attended the riot, and was disappointed people didn't show up armed, I think it's pretty obvious what his intent was. Let's not pretend he was some innocent bystander just there for a political rally. Whether he actually entered or did not is open to interpretation given that's just what he said unless there's actual evidence by way of pictures confirming he was even at the riot in the first place. A LOT of people said they didn't go inside once they discovered they'd potentially be facing prison time for doing so. A LOT of people lied.