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Outrage has always sold. You can look at cultural/artistic things similar to this, like Rock and Roll in the 70s/80s and Rap music in the 90s, to political, War

by xzel 5y ago

Outrage has always sold. You can look at cultural/artistic things similar to this, like Rock and Roll in the 70s/80s and Rap music in the 90s, to political, War on Drugs and the Patriot Act. I'm sure you could look and find similar examples every decade for hundreds of years.

lostgame 5y ago
I'm gonna do it! Other people please feel free to jump in and help me refine this. :) Arguably; the 2010's are the first decade I've maybe seen without a serious incident like this I can recall, what with Eminem (and a lot of other rappers) firmly occupying the 00's. 1990's had artists such as Nirvana, Marylin Manson, and the turn of the 90's featured the controversy of N.W.A., Ice Cube, etc. The 1980's, before the rise of rap in the late 80's; featured the metal movement, with often overtly Satanic lyrics and imagery such as inverted pentagrams. Christians would often gather and burn albums by Metallica, Alice Cooper, etc. The 1970's continued the themes of psychedelia and occultism that first occurred in the 1960's, and albums by artists like Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin and (introducing!) Black Sabbath, were; again - super controversial, not to mention the burgeoning punk scene. The 1960's turned rock and roll into just rock; and you bet your ass those Beatles worshipped Satan, don't ya know! The 'bigger than Jesus' comment would remain in music history forever. The Beatniks and their pill-popping would raise eyebrows all over the world. The 1950's featured the hip-swinging movements of Elvis Presley, who was certainly corrupting the youth of the time, infusing them with ideas of promiscuous behaviour. :O That's probably about where I lose the plot, myself. I know jazz was controversial, but I don't know enough about the specific history around it beyond the obvious racial implications. So you can certainly go back more than 50 years and find one or more of these 'controversy-mongerers' every decade for sure. :) Outrage has always sold. Outrage goes Platinum. ;)
- rkuykendall-com 5y ago
  > Arguably; the 2010's are the first decade I've maybe seen without a serious incident like this I can recall, what with Eminem (and a lot of other rappers) firmly occupying the 00's. https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1537602/super-bowl-halftime-shows-who-got-the-biggest-sales-bumps https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1537602/super-bowl-h... 2004 - "Despite, or maybe because of, controversy generated by their halftime appearance, sales for three of Jackson's albums more than doubled in the week after the show, while Timberlake's Justified increased 160%." ( I am not saying this was not an accident, just that outrage likely contributed to sales )
- xzel 5y ago
  I think an interesting addition would be the sexualization of pop music through the 00s and 10s. The other child post referenced the Janet Jackson super bowl fiasco. There was plenty of outrage for Britney Spears and I’d say even more for somes like WAP and Cardi B. While I think there is an argument to be made this started much earlier than the 00s there has been a lot of “outrage” more recently than I remember. I also think it’s interesting that pretty much all of these themes have existed in music for the last 50 years or so but for a song to get real outrage it really needs to penetrate the ether. For example, the company selling these shoes sold ones with holy water in the heels, that a very small, in comparison, number of people knew about. I’d consider something like that sacrilegious, but I didn’t hear of any public outrage.
- BrandoElFollito 5y ago
  > Christians would often gather and burn albums by Metallica, Alice Cooper, etc. Was this the case in the US? Not in Europe at least.

by xzel 5y ago

lostgame 5y ago

I'm gonna do it! Other people please feel free to jump in and help me refine this. :) Arguably; the 2010's are the first decade I've maybe seen without a serious incident like this I can recall, what with Eminem (and a lot of other rappers) firmly occupying the 00's. 1990's had artists such as Nirvana, Marylin Manson, and the turn of the 90's featured the controversy of N.W.A., Ice Cube, etc. The 1980's, before the rise of rap in the late 80's; featured the metal movement, with often overtly Satanic lyrics and imagery such as inverted pentagrams. Christians would often gather and burn albums by Metallica, Alice Cooper, etc. The 1970's continued the themes of psychedelia and occultism that first occurred in the 1960's, and albums by artists like Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin and (introducing!) Black Sabbath, were; again - super controversial, not to mention the burgeoning punk scene. The 1960's turned rock and roll into just rock; and you bet your ass those Beatles worshipped Satan, don't ya know! The 'bigger than Jesus' comment would remain in music history forever. The Beatniks and their pill-popping would raise eyebrows all over the world. The 1950's featured the hip-swinging movements of Elvis Presley, who was certainly corrupting the youth of the time, infusing them with ideas of promiscuous behaviour. :O That's probably about where I lose the plot, myself. I know jazz was controversial, but I don't know enough about the specific history around it beyond the obvious racial implications. So you can certainly go back more than 50 years and find one or more of these 'controversy-mongerers' every decade for sure. :) Outrage has always sold. Outrage goes Platinum. ;)

rkuykendall-com 5y ago
> Arguably; the 2010's are the first decade I've maybe seen without a serious incident like this I can recall, what with Eminem (and a lot of other rappers) firmly occupying the 00's. https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1537602/super-bowl-halftime-shows-who-got-the-biggest-sales-bumps https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1537602/super-bowl-h... 2004 - "Despite, or maybe because of, controversy generated by their halftime appearance, sales for three of Jackson's albums more than doubled in the week after the show, while Timberlake's Justified increased 160%." ( I am not saying this was not an accident, just that outrage likely contributed to sales )
xzel 5y ago
I think an interesting addition would be the sexualization of pop music through the 00s and 10s. The other child post referenced the Janet Jackson super bowl fiasco. There was plenty of outrage for Britney Spears and I’d say even more for somes like WAP and Cardi B. While I think there is an argument to be made this started much earlier than the 00s there has been a lot of “outrage” more recently than I remember. I also think it’s interesting that pretty much all of these themes have existed in music for the last 50 years or so but for a song to get real outrage it really needs to penetrate the ether. For example, the company selling these shoes sold ones with holy water in the heels, that a very small, in comparison, number of people knew about. I’d consider something like that sacrilegious, but I didn’t hear of any public outrage.
BrandoElFollito 5y ago
> Christians would often gather and burn albums by Metallica, Alice Cooper, etc. Was this the case in the US? Not in Europe at least.