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Well, it’s not just money. By lowering the taxes and regulatory environment, you increase individual freedoms. That’s worth a lot to Americans.

omgwtfbbq 5y ago
Sure, the freedom to be murdered in a mass shooting or go bankrupt due to a basic medical issue. I think much of the world thinks that the American "System" is rather disturbing and callous.
- deleted 5y ago
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- edgyquant 5y ago
  This is a strawman, we are talking about workers right in the US, not healthcare or gun control. You may disagree with the way work is regulated in the US, but at least attack those regulations instead of trying to derail into two other, highly nuanced and emotional, subject matters.
  - omgwtfbbq 5y ago
    >This is a strawman, we are talking about workers right in the US, not healthcare or gun control. Thats not what strawman means and the parent comment was talking about taxes, regulation and "individual freedom." Not wanting to die in a mass shooting or go bankrupt due to medical costs are certainly not highly nuanced...
- psychiatrist24 5y ago
  Should be easy to check by comparing applications for immigration.
- dudul 5y ago
  And that's why nobody in the world wants to immigrate to the US.
  - omgwtfbbq 5y ago
    Certainly very few people from the EU are.
  - dang 5y ago
    Please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN. It makes the threads even worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- tesmar2 5y ago
  Sure, have all your money taken without a say to be given crap, rationed care, or most likely die waiting in line. And on top of that have no way defend yourself or your friends if a new dictator comes to town to send you off to a new summer camp.
  - omgwtfbbq 5y ago
    >Sure, have all your money taken without a say to be given crap, rationed care, or most likely die waiting in line. Talk about strawman. By any objective measure the US healthcare system is the worst in the developed world.
    - tesmar2 5y ago
      You know, except for outcomes, research, etc. Also good luck when Uncle Adolf comes to town.
      - dang 5y ago
        You've been posting a lot of flamewar comments to HN. We ban that sort of account, and we've warned you before. You've also been using HN primarily for political and ideological battle, and we ban that sort of account too, regardless of which ideology you're for or against, as explained here: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... I had to scroll back months in your account history to notice even one comment that wasn't ideological battle. That's seriously not cool—it's basically vandalism, if not arson. Since you've ignored our previous requests not to do this, I've banned the account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
      - omgwtfbbq 5y ago
        Let's be honest here. If Adolf came to your town carrying a US Flag and a Bible you would be first in line to cheer at his rally.
- dang 5y ago
  You've broken the site guidelines badly in this thread and you've been breaking them badly elsewhere too. If you keep this up, we're going to have to ban you. Would you mind reviewing ;https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and using HN in the intended spirit? Nationalistic flamewar and other flamewar is off topic here, and personal attacks (e.g. in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26623262 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26623262) are not welcome either.

omgwtfbbq 5y ago

Sure, the freedom to be murdered in a mass shooting or go bankrupt due to a basic medical issue. I think much of the world thinks that the American "System" is rather disturbing and callous.

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edgyquant 5y ago
This is a strawman, we are talking about workers right in the US, not healthcare or gun control. You may disagree with the way work is regulated in the US, but at least attack those regulations instead of trying to derail into two other, highly nuanced and emotional, subject matters.
- omgwtfbbq 5y ago
  >This is a strawman, we are talking about workers right in the US, not healthcare or gun control. Thats not what strawman means and the parent comment was talking about taxes, regulation and "individual freedom." Not wanting to die in a mass shooting or go bankrupt due to medical costs are certainly not highly nuanced...
psychiatrist24 5y ago
Should be easy to check by comparing applications for immigration.
dudul 5y ago
And that's why nobody in the world wants to immigrate to the US.
- omgwtfbbq 5y ago
  Certainly very few people from the EU are.
- dang 5y ago
  Please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN. It makes the threads even worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
tesmar2 5y ago
Sure, have all your money taken without a say to be given crap, rationed care, or most likely die waiting in line. And on top of that have no way defend yourself or your friends if a new dictator comes to town to send you off to a new summer camp.
- omgwtfbbq 5y ago
  >Sure, have all your money taken without a say to be given crap, rationed care, or most likely die waiting in line. Talk about strawman. By any objective measure the US healthcare system is the worst in the developed world.
  - tesmar2 5y ago
    You know, except for outcomes, research, etc. Also good luck when Uncle Adolf comes to town.
    - dang 5y ago
      You've been posting a lot of flamewar comments to HN. We ban that sort of account, and we've warned you before. You've also been using HN primarily for political and ideological battle, and we ban that sort of account too, regardless of which ideology you're for or against, as explained here: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... I had to scroll back months in your account history to notice even one comment that wasn't ideological battle. That's seriously not cool—it's basically vandalism, if not arson. Since you've ignored our previous requests not to do this, I've banned the account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
    - omgwtfbbq 5y ago
      Let's be honest here. If Adolf came to your town carrying a US Flag and a Bible you would be first in line to cheer at his rally.
dang 5y ago
You've broken the site guidelines badly in this thread and you've been breaking them badly elsewhere too. If you keep this up, we're going to have to ban you. Would you mind reviewing ;https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and using HN in the intended spirit? Nationalistic flamewar and other flamewar is off topic here, and personal attacks (e.g. in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26623262 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26623262) are not welcome either.