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I am sorry but from what I know, 30k€/year is more than the average wage (net) in most European countries, for a full-time job, mind you. In many countries, lik

I am sorry but from what I know, 30k€/year is more than the average wage (net) in most European countries, for a full-time job, mind you. In many countries, like Italy or Spain, it's even more like just 20k€/year. To US citizens that is often surprising but you obviously can't discount the social safety net, universal health care and generally lower cost of living, better public transport etc. in many countries. In that case, 20k€ year can definitely be enough to live on (at least until you have kids). So I fear it is unlikely that you will find a part-time job that pays that much in most of Europe... But again, correct me if I'm wrong.

lmueongoqx 6y ago
It's a bit higher for devs. As a full stack web dev (woop dee doo) with 10 years exp I'm currently earning 45k€/year.
- imagine99 6y ago
  I legit lol'd at "woop dee doo". Glad to see you see the humor in all that full-stack madness ;-) Out of curiosity, 45k€/year in what industry and country (if you're willing to share)? And is this a salaried position or freelance? If it's job in a company, have you tried asking whether you can go part-time? Family reasons or whatever... I think in some countries is now legally required that your boss offers you an option to reduce your hours or go part-time if it is possible in any way (I don't see why it shouldn't be for a "full stack web dev" ;-)). Can't hurt to try, certainly.
pftburger 6y ago
OK thats interesting. For reference thats 59 Bruto (before tax) 36 after tax, medical, social contribution, mandatory pension etc. A friend just left for a 70K So to put that in perspective I live my partner, and pay 600 for rent, warm for 120m2 The place was a dump when we moved in 10 years ago but we renovated it ourselves (a proper Grundsanierung) Shared expenses come to about 600 for my portion. We split expenses based on salary, so my partner contributes 400 as she earns less. So from the 3k after tax, 1.2k is fixed expenses, 0.5k is fun, 1.3k is savings. We just bought a plot of land north of Berlin with a few friends (again, cheaper! and more fun!) and am building a little off grid cabin with that spare time. Doing stuff like that with a group is just great. Its a break from this idea that it needs to be allll miiiiiiine! (evil villain voice), splits costs and splits workloads (you try mowing all that grass....)

lmueongoqx 6y ago

It's a bit higher for devs. As a full stack web dev (woop dee doo) with 10 years exp I'm currently earning 45k€/year.

imagine99 6y ago
I legit lol'd at "woop dee doo". Glad to see you see the humor in all that full-stack madness ;-) Out of curiosity, 45k€/year in what industry and country (if you're willing to share)? And is this a salaried position or freelance? If it's job in a company, have you tried asking whether you can go part-time? Family reasons or whatever... I think in some countries is now legally required that your boss offers you an option to reduce your hours or go part-time if it is possible in any way (I don't see why it shouldn't be for a "full stack web dev" ;-)). Can't hurt to try, certainly.

pftburger 6y ago

OK thats interesting. For reference thats 59 Bruto (before tax) 36 after tax, medical, social contribution, mandatory pension etc. A friend just left for a 70K So to put that in perspective I live my partner, and pay 600 for rent, warm for 120m2 The place was a dump when we moved in 10 years ago but we renovated it ourselves (a proper Grundsanierung) Shared expenses come to about 600 for my portion. We split expenses based on salary, so my partner contributes 400 as she earns less. So from the 3k after tax, 1.2k is fixed expenses, 0.5k is fun, 1.3k is savings. We just bought a plot of land north of Berlin with a few friends (again, cheaper! and more fun!) and am building a little off grid cabin with that spare time. Doing stuff like that with a group is just great. Its a break from this idea that it needs to be allll miiiiiiine! (evil villain voice), splits costs and splits workloads (you try mowing all that grass....)