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Python and Javascript are the new languages that dominate compared to 10 years ago.

by typon 6y ago

lumost 6y ago
As a trend, I've noticed that there are more companies with python/ruby/go/js based stacks than java/c++ stacks. However there are more jobs for Java/C++ than all the rest. Large firms like Google/Amazon/Apple etc. tend to have an unquenchable need for skilled java/C++ devs. Going beyond the top firms large startups like Square/Uber/SalesForce similarly use java stacks.
happyweasel 6y ago
They are the BASIC and LOGO programming languages of our time. Which is not a bad thing. A javascript developer? A dude standing on multi-million lines of C++ code (the browser) to display a dialog box with some fancy animations? All the while destroying the accessibility that html offered ? If these program languages are so powerful why don't you write the underlying infrastructure and library layers in those languages (which are C/C++, maybe rust in future) for good reasons..
- kilburn 6y ago
  Notice that your reasoning could be perfectly extended to assembler: there are assembler parts below your C/C++/rust code. If C/C++/rust are so powerful, why don't they write everything in that language? The answer is simple: different layers, different requirements. I'm not particularly fond of the myriad electron-apps out there, but we know how the alternative looks like: a world where most programs only work on windows. The same thing can be argued in the C/C++/Rust vs Python/Javascript/Whatever: if only the former could be used we would have much less software in the world. Some would say we would have less and _worse_ (as in crashes and security issues everywhere) software. Sometimes "a fancy dialog box with fancy animations" is precisely what a business needs. The fact that it can be created and deployed worldwide in 20min. by a run-off-the-mill worker is a plus in this context. The world doesn't care about good software, it cares about software that fulfills an otherwise unfulfilled purpose.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  Not many companies had their entire products written in BASIC and Logo.
danaliv 6y ago
This is heavily dependent on the subject matter/industry.

Python and Javascript are the new languages that dominate compared to 10 years ago.

by typon 6y ago

Python and Javascript are the new languages that dominate compared to 10 years ago.

As a trend, I've noticed that there are more companies with python/ruby/go/js based stacks than java/c++ stacks. However there are more jobs for Java/C++ than all the rest. Large firms like Google/Amazon/Apple etc. tend to have an unquenchable need for skilled java/C++ devs. Going beyond the top firms large startups like Square/Uber/SalesForce similarly use java stacks.

happyweasel 6y ago

They are the BASIC and LOGO programming languages of our time. Which is not a bad thing. A javascript developer? A dude standing on multi-million lines of C++ code (the browser) to display a dialog box with some fancy animations? All the while destroying the accessibility that html offered ? If these program languages are so powerful why don't you write the underlying infrastructure and library layers in those languages (which are C/C++, maybe rust in future) for good reasons..

kilburn 6y ago
Notice that your reasoning could be perfectly extended to assembler: there are assembler parts below your C/C++/rust code. If C/C++/rust are so powerful, why don't they write everything in that language? The answer is simple: different layers, different requirements. I'm not particularly fond of the myriad electron-apps out there, but we know how the alternative looks like: a world where most programs only work on windows. The same thing can be argued in the C/C++/Rust vs Python/Javascript/Whatever: if only the former could be used we would have much less software in the world. Some would say we would have less and _worse_ (as in crashes and security issues everywhere) software. Sometimes "a fancy dialog box with fancy animations" is precisely what a business needs. The fact that it can be created and deployed worldwide in 20min. by a run-off-the-mill worker is a plus in this context. The world doesn't care about good software, it cares about software that fulfills an otherwise unfulfilled purpose.
saagarjha 6y ago
Not many companies had their entire products written in BASIC and Logo.

danaliv 6y ago

This is heavily dependent on the subject matter/industry.