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Most of the trendy languages like Rust and Clojure are irrelevant. As ever it's C++ and Java that still dominate.

by throwaway3699 6y ago

typon 6y ago
Python and Javascript are the new languages that dominate compared to 10 years ago.
- lumost 6y ago
  As a trend, I've noticed that there are more companies with python/ruby/go/js based stacks than java/c++ stacks. However there are more jobs for Java/C++ than all the rest. Large firms like Google/Amazon/Apple etc. tend to have an unquenchable need for skilled java/C++ devs. Going beyond the top firms large startups like Square/Uber/SalesForce similarly use java stacks.
- happyweasel 6y ago
  They are the BASIC and LOGO programming languages of our time. Which is not a bad thing. A javascript developer? A dude standing on multi-million lines of C++ code (the browser) to display a dialog box with some fancy animations? All the while destroying the accessibility that html offered ? If these program languages are so powerful why don't you write the underlying infrastructure and library layers in those languages (which are C/C++, maybe rust in future) for good reasons..
  - kilburn 6y ago
    Notice that your reasoning could be perfectly extended to assembler: there are assembler parts below your C/C++/rust code. If C/C++/rust are so powerful, why don't they write everything in that language? The answer is simple: different layers, different requirements. I'm not particularly fond of the myriad electron-apps out there, but we know how the alternative looks like: a world where most programs only work on windows. The same thing can be argued in the C/C++/Rust vs Python/Javascript/Whatever: if only the former could be used we would have much less software in the world. Some would say we would have less and _worse_ (as in crashes and security issues everywhere) software. Sometimes "a fancy dialog box with fancy animations" is precisely what a business needs. The fact that it can be created and deployed worldwide in 20min. by a run-off-the-mill worker is a plus in this context. The world doesn't care about good software, it cares about software that fulfills an otherwise unfulfilled purpose.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    Not many companies had their entire products written in BASIC and Logo.
- danaliv 6y ago
  This is heavily dependent on the subject matter/industry.

Most of the trendy languages like Rust and Clojure are irrelevant. As ever it's C++ and Java that still dominate.

typon 6y ago

Python and Javascript are the new languages that dominate compared to 10 years ago.

lumost 6y ago
As a trend, I've noticed that there are more companies with python/ruby/go/js based stacks than java/c++ stacks. However there are more jobs for Java/C++ than all the rest. Large firms like Google/Amazon/Apple etc. tend to have an unquenchable need for skilled java/C++ devs. Going beyond the top firms large startups like Square/Uber/SalesForce similarly use java stacks.
happyweasel 6y ago
They are the BASIC and LOGO programming languages of our time. Which is not a bad thing. A javascript developer? A dude standing on multi-million lines of C++ code (the browser) to display a dialog box with some fancy animations? All the while destroying the accessibility that html offered ? If these program languages are so powerful why don't you write the underlying infrastructure and library layers in those languages (which are C/C++, maybe rust in future) for good reasons..
- kilburn 6y ago
  Notice that your reasoning could be perfectly extended to assembler: there are assembler parts below your C/C++/rust code. If C/C++/rust are so powerful, why don't they write everything in that language? The answer is simple: different layers, different requirements. I'm not particularly fond of the myriad electron-apps out there, but we know how the alternative looks like: a world where most programs only work on windows. The same thing can be argued in the C/C++/Rust vs Python/Javascript/Whatever: if only the former could be used we would have much less software in the world. Some would say we would have less and _worse_ (as in crashes and security issues everywhere) software. Sometimes "a fancy dialog box with fancy animations" is precisely what a business needs. The fact that it can be created and deployed worldwide in 20min. by a run-off-the-mill worker is a plus in this context. The world doesn't care about good software, it cares about software that fulfills an otherwise unfulfilled purpose.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  Not many companies had their entire products written in BASIC and Logo.
danaliv 6y ago
This is heavily dependent on the subject matter/industry.