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Ugh, no followup to the Stylo 5, then. Got mine in 2019 shortly after it was released, and it's been rock-solid. Aside from the inevitable non-removable battery

Ugh, no followup to the Stylo 5, then. Got mine in 2019 shortly after it was released, and it's been rock-solid. Aside from the inevitable non-removable battery, I've had no complaints, and to be fair to the battery, I still get outstanding life from it. I really don't want a phone that's all-glass. I know it's trendy, but, hard pass for me. The aluminum frame and plastic back are things LG got very right with the Stylo 5. Please put enough of a bezel on it that I can actually grab it without triggering something inadvertently. And, yes, that 3.5 mm jack is important. Music-making apps are basically impossible to work with when your audio path includes Bluetooth delay.

jmclnx 6y ago
same here, I always liked the LG phones I have had. Very solid and works great. Sad to see this happening.
gwbas1c 6y ago
> And, yes, that 3.5 mm jack is important I thought the USB-C -> 3.5mm adaptors are just mechanical, or have no delay?
- ck425 6y ago
  My understanding is that many USB-C adapters limit voltage, which screws over good headphones. Also from experience of using a DAC via USB-C everyday for many years, they're really really unreliable. 3.5mm on the other hand just works and is (was? ) ubiquitous.
- CameronNemo 6y ago
  If they are mechanical, they are probably some special sauce not quite USB-C ports. USB is digital, TRS is analog. (Yes that means standardized adapters have to include a DAC). The delay should be minimal, though.
  - rrmm 6y ago
    There is a mode that's called "Audio Adapter Accessory Mode" that makes use of the USB 2.0 data lines and a few others as analog audio lines for the headphones.
    - CameronNemo 6y ago
      That is good to hear! Hopefully smart phones are supporting that standard, because it does appear to be an extension of USB.
- rokweom 6y ago
  There are passive and active dongles. With a passive dongle, the DAC is built into the phone and the analog signal is simply passed through the connector. Active dongles are essentialy tiny USB DACs, they communicate with the phone digitally via USB.

jmclnx 6y ago

same here, I always liked the LG phones I have had. Very solid and works great. Sad to see this happening.

gwbas1c 6y ago

> And, yes, that 3.5 mm jack is important I thought the USB-C -> 3.5mm adaptors are just mechanical, or have no delay?

ck425 6y ago
My understanding is that many USB-C adapters limit voltage, which screws over good headphones. Also from experience of using a DAC via USB-C everyday for many years, they're really really unreliable. 3.5mm on the other hand just works and is (was? ) ubiquitous.
CameronNemo 6y ago
If they are mechanical, they are probably some special sauce not quite USB-C ports. USB is digital, TRS is analog. (Yes that means standardized adapters have to include a DAC). The delay should be minimal, though.
- rrmm 6y ago
  There is a mode that's called "Audio Adapter Accessory Mode" that makes use of the USB 2.0 data lines and a few others as analog audio lines for the headphones.
  - CameronNemo 6y ago
    That is good to hear! Hopefully smart phones are supporting that standard, because it does appear to be an extension of USB.
rokweom 6y ago
There are passive and active dongles. With a passive dongle, the DAC is built into the phone and the analog signal is simply passed through the connector. Active dongles are essentialy tiny USB DACs, they communicate with the phone digitally via USB.