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Soviet TV version of Lord of the Rings rediscovered after 30 years
- andreasley 6y agoPart 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vquKyNdgH3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vquKyNdgH3s Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLevCLNnLmg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLevCLNnLmg
- thih9 6y agoWhen going to youtube, I'm seeing a full page cookie consent and I can't proceed to the video without interacting with it. I didn't see that before. I browse in private mode and clear cookies, looks like they want to show that page for every video in that case. Is there a plugin or tool that works around a page like this?
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- jhgb 6y agoDoes this work even with YT's new full page nagware? That page only mentions pop-ups.
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- crtasm 6y agoI can understand that. Out of interest I disabled the script and tried the Customize option. Clicking Confirm then tries to redirect me via https://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/ads/preferences/cu/optout https://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/ads/preferences/cu/optou...?... which is on both my uBlock and Pihole blocklists. I'll carry on auto-consenting for cookie storage, and auto-deleting them when I close the tab.
- dwighttk 6y agoAnyone know how to get English captions? Also found this version of The Hobbit (as I don’t know Russian I have no idea if this is solid or not) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ekbJdOGAxPQ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ekbJdOGAxPQ
- Arech 6y agoWow, never knew this theatrical adaptation existed. Seems valid at first glance. Special thanks from my wife for the link)) (sorry, don't know about English captions. Seems like they aren't available for it)
- TedDoesntTalk 6y agoThe first meeting with Golem appears to be around 34:14. Not a bad job of Golem if you had to create him with makeup and costume only.
- teddyh 6y agoThat’s “Gollum” (or possibly “Голлум”).
- horsh1 6y agoHere's a version with English captions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajknsrDX-VY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajknsrDX-VY
- horsh1 6y agoHobbit, yes! While 1991 "lotr" and 1985 "the hobbit" are both tv playes, the lotr is rather awful and amateurish. But "the Hobbit" is a real masterpiece.
- Arech 6y agoThanks for the links! I wonder why they didn't post the links in the article?
- danohuiginn 6y agoSimilarly, there is an early-90s Russian version of The Wizard Of Oz. Watching it with the help of Youtube's auto-translated subtitles was...quite an experience. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7gbwu0A3s8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7gbwu0A3s8
- tzfld 6y agoI love watching old Soviet sf movies on youtube. Auto generated and translated subtitles are sometimes tricky but the visuals are great.
- BlueGh0st 6y agoI can't add this to a playlist (even the built-in 'Watch Later') because YouTube considers it made for children. What a useless anti-feature.
- throwaway3699 6y agoThis happened when a YouTube peado ring was discovered using playtests and comments to share clips. COPPA was also becoming an issue again, so they did this.
- jan_Inkepa 6y ago> Aired 10 years before the release of the first instalment of Peter Jackson’s movie trilogy, the low-budget film appears ripped from another age: the costumes and sets are rudimentary, the green-screen effects are ludicrous, and many of the scenes look more like a theatre production than a feature-length film. I wish the article wasn't so sneering in tone... sneering is good larks if you're on board with it, but if you come in like "oh wait this actually seems interesting" it can be a bit off-putting. However, it is nice to know of this show's existence, and I'm grateful to learn of that.
- versale 6y agoActually it is a theater adaptation, but aired on TV. I remember that time. The Leningrad TV made plenty of similar TV-plays for children featuring actors from Leningrad theaters. I find it funny that such production is compared with Jackson’s trilogy now.
- guerrilla 6y agoIt's like they pulled one of their Cold War era writers out of retitrment just for this article...
- essentialoils 6y agono, he looks like a freshly minted cold warrior. andrew roth should go and dig up scifi from bbc and compare "green-screen effects".
- IgorPartola 6y agoI love Star Trek TNG but it was about as “ludicrous” in a lot of ways. I also grew up on Soviet movies and cartoons so this doesn’t look as out of place to me as I guess it might to someone who’s never seen this genre of film.
- jahnu 6y agoTotally :) https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/startrek/images/2/20/Skinofevil.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190224204539 https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/startrek/images/2/20/Skino...
- txdv 6y agoIt is so terrible that you could make thousands of high class meme gifs out of it.
- api 6y agoI was just thinking that... "Captain, sensors are detecting an enormous field of memes ahead!"
- tomcooks 6y agoIf you find it so terrible don't watch it, or try making your own for measure
- txdv 6y agoIf you read the entire sentence that I wrote to the end, you will understand, that I actually liked it, because is is a great source for creating gif memes
- twic 6y agoMore recently, Russians made a pretty decent Dragonlance musical: https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2020/08/dd-wait-hang-on-theres-a-russian-dragonlance-musical.html https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2020/08/dd-wait-hang-on-ther...
- konart 6y agoYep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfuKRdgnmO8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfuKRdgnmO8 - this is the best version in my opinion (aside from the "classic" version with Natalia O'Shea as Takhisis)
- kofejnik 6y agoquite amazingly, it was written, produced and performed by (mostly) hobbyist musicians and actors from Russia's pretty sizeable LARP community (though some leads are pros)
- twic 6y agoRussian LARPers built a steam tank: http://nyc.qadviser.com/articles/steamtank-featuring-warhammer-larp-2016-in-russia-moscow-region http://nyc.qadviser.com/articles/steamtank-featuring-warhamm... Do not taunt Russian LARPers.
- boomboomsubban 6y ago>The Soviet version includes some plot elements left out of Jackson’s $93m blockbuster, including an appearance by the character Tom Bombadil, a forest dweller cut from the English-language version because he was too long-winded and failed to move the plot forward. Someone involved with this piece is still bitter that Tom Bombadil was cut from the trilogy.
- JoeAltmaier 6y agoCurious character. Provided some backstory regarding the origins of magic and layered perception of the universe. Lots of color about culture. Didn't move the plot forward? The Hobbit is what, 300+ pages? What fraction of that actually did move the plot forward?
- titzer 6y agoTom Bombadil was in the Fellowship of the Ring, not the Hobbit. The thing about Tom Bombadil is that he was an enigma. He wore the ring and did not vanish. Instead, he made the ring vanish. It had no power over him. He was just completely orthogonal to this struggle, which detracts from its urgency. He was neither in the Ralph Bakshi film nor Jackson's, in part because it detracts from the dangerous atmosphere.
- JoeAltmaier 6y agoThanks, been 40 years since I read it. He's backstory. The Silmarillion was mostly backstory, is almost 500 pages, and people read that. They can stand a few pages on Tom Bombadil in their adventure story. And he's so singularly interesting, that I remember him particularly. After 40 years. With no help from the movie industry for sure.
- titzer 6y agoYep, I'm a fan of Tom, too :) If you get to re-reading it again, just imagine Tom singing his songs as if they were country, like Hank Williams or Garth Brooks-style. Hilarious!
- FpUser 6y ago>"the costumes and sets are rudimentary, the green-screen effects are ludicrous, and many of the scenes look more like a theatre production than a feature-length film" Actually officially it was "telespactakle" - which basically is theatre production but made for TV instead of being played on live stage. So no surprise here.
- slackfan 6y agoAlso "rediscovered" by The Guardian maybe. It's been well-traded on Russian torrent sites for years. The article makes it seem like it was lost to time or something.
- imwillofficial 6y ago“In mother Russia, the ring wears you”
- galuggus 6y agoHere are some wonderful illustrations from a Soviet edition of 'The Hobbit' https://mashable.com/2015/12/25/soviet-hobbit/ https://mashable.com/2015/12/25/soviet-hobbit/
- hallarempt 6y agoI had that book -- bought it in Leyden, the Netherlands when I was studying Russian. When we have a group of Russian orphans staying over in the early nineties, I gave them all my Russian books, including this one. It was really good to see them reading out of Xobbit to each other every night :-) Since then, I've forgotten all my Russian...
- grawprog 6y agoI have to say, I prefer the illustrations in that Soviet version to the illustrated western version based on that cartoon movie. Smaug actually looks like a dragon, instead of a giant cat...
- macleginn 6y agoThis book was republished several times with the same content but with a different colour of the cover each time (white; dark blue; something brownish; maybe more). As a child, and I went through at least three different colours; I managed to destroy or lose a The Hobbit every year or so.
- hhjinks 6y agoI love that the Arkenstone is what Bilbo holds on the cover, and not The One Ring.
- kjrose 6y agoTo be honest. I've been introduced to some translated soviet Russian literature of late that is absolutely fascinating. Especially in the descriptions of daily life and struggles in the soviet cities which do not deviate anywhere near as much as I expected from non communist life. Even these soviet tv shows are slowly coming out and are just absolutely fascinating.
- macintux 6y agoWhen I was in grade school, the town library had a Soviet encyclopedia, in English. Why or how it came to be there, I have no idea, and I regret not inquiring about it, and I also regret not spending more time reading it.
- josh_fyi 6y agoThere were deals between the Soviet Union and the United States that each one would place its books in school libraries of the other. The magazine Soviet Life is the best known item placed by this program. Wonder what access Soviet children really had to the American equivalent
- Arech 6y agoHmm... I (was born in 1982 and lived in Moscow) never heard of such deal and American books in libraries...
- yboris 6y agoI highly recommend: One Day in the Life of Inav Denisovich by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Day_in_the_Life_of_Ivan_Denisovich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Day_in_the_Life_of_Ivan_De...
- kjrose 6y agoThe Master and Margarita is likely one of my favorite pieces of literature in translation.
- skvark 6y agoThere exists also a Finnish mini series called "The Hobbits" (1993): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHFKdgjEugs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHFKdgjEugs
- EGreg 6y agoThe Goblin dub and Yu Gi Oh the Abridged Series are a genre all their own. Can someone recommend more awesome dubs series??
- livueta 6y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizard_People,_Dear_Reader https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizard_People,_Dear_Reader I think the whole thing is on Youtube (as video fragments in a playlist) but is definitely also available as a torrent.
- Apocryphon 6y ago> The score, composed by Andrei Romanov of the rock band Akvarium > In the opening song, Romanov sings a rough translation of Tolkien’s description of the origins of the rings of power, The Soviets had their own Led Zeppelin. Perhaps we weren’t so different after all.
- technofiend 6y agoAnecdotally since I see people referring to other Soviet TV shows making their way to Western audiences a friend turned me to on Comrade Detective. It's a fascinating view into propaganda as entertainment from the Cold War. It's free on Amazon Prime's streaming service. From IMDB: Parody comedy designed to resemble a non-existent gritty 1980's Cold War Romanian police show that promoted Communist ideals. The action-packed and blood-soaked first season finds Detectives Gregor Anghel and Joseph Baciu investigating the murder of fellow officer Nikita Ionescu and, in the process, unraveling a subversive plot to destroy their country that is fueled by what-else-but the greatest enemy: Capitalism. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5834198/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5834198/
- camjohnson26 6y agoSomebody here posted the Soviet Winnie the Pooh a while back, very charming: https://youtu.be/bEwE4wyz00o https://youtu.be/bEwE4wyz00o
- billfruit 6y agoReally impressive and very stylized. Soviet children's book etc had a very splendid art style.
- heletoto 6y agoI never knew this exists up until now. I'd love to watch this if ever there was an English caption available. Russians did an excellent job in this theater adaptation.
- fiftyacorn 6y agoI picked up a cd version of the BBC radio play with Ian Holm as frodo, and bill nighy as Sam which was made around 30-40 years ago. Its really good and worth a listen
- 0x6A75616E 6y agoSomebody should go tell Bald and Bankrupt about this :0
- sigg3 6y agoThis is beautiful. Thank you!
- Igelau 6y agoAnyone familiar enough with the language to figure out what happened to Gandalf in Part 2? They have him crossing the bridge, there's a spooky tunnel, there's a lot of talk from Scarface (Aragorn?) and some of the hobbits cry. But there's no Balrog!
- udev 6y agoContext is essential for understanding art. This was released in 1991, a period of great economic and political turmoil in Russia. They were essentially in the process of switching from one-party communism to a democratic system with real private property. Many organizations were undergoing rapid (often overnight) privatization. Just to give you an idea of the economic chaos, inflation in 1992 was 2000%. You can imagine how that plays out for a production budget. Yet, despite the turbulence, people tried to create and to entertain.
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- CynicusRex 6y agoLess disappointing than the Game of Thrones finale.
- jdkee 6y ago“ The Soviet version includes some plot elements left out of Jackson’s $93m blockbuster, including an appearance by the character Tom Bombadil, a forest dweller cut from the English-language version because he was too long-winded and failed to move the plot forward.” This quote speaks volumes about the respective audiences.