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Unfortunely without FB studying (attending) would be 10 times harder.

by tester756 6y ago

rantwasp 6y ago
is it harder? maybe. is it a requirement? nah
- tester756 6y ago
  at some point of the increased difficulty it becomes a requirement.
  - rantwasp 6y ago
    it does not. FB becoming a requirement is such a 1st world problem. Try living without clean water and come back to lecture me about “increased difficulty”
    - tester756 6y ago
      holy shit dude yea, water is required to live, facebook is required to get degree times easier in my example, those aren't mutually excluisive what do you want to argue here about, except just arguing for the sake of arguing? I don't like fb, I don't use it when I don't have to and after graduation I'm probably not going to use it more often than once a X months, but I had to have & sometimes use it unless I wanted to make my life harder - I don't like it, but that's the reality.
      - rantwasp 6y ago
        I am not arguing with you. I am pointing out FB is a POS and that it should not be required. Period. Anything that uses FB as a way of keeping people informed should use at least another channel to disseminate that information, preferably not tied to big corporations.
        tester756 6y ago
        >should use at least another channel how are you going to convince $whole_group_of_students_of_given_year to move communication off the facebook?
        herbst 6y ago
        By not participating, loudly. Easy as that By taking part you just make this more normal/ok than it really is
        tester756 6y ago
        and if nobody moves then? then I'm at the disadvantage, sad but that's the reality.
        johannes1234321 6y ago
        Maybe that would work now (while nowadays some people look confussed at me that I don't have an instagram account) but at least ten years ago that brought a reaction like "weirdo" and people continued to use their group. In some cases you have a friend who relates messages to you. In these days, where in presence school in many places doesn't happen students know each other only virtually, if you don't hang out where the crowd is, there is no chance of getting information.
        ryandrake 6y ago
        If some group of friends shuns you because they insist on you using Facebook, then I have bad news for you: they might not be such good friends as you think. I’ve been off FB for close to 10 years now and I can say with confidence that it has not had any measurable detrimental effect on my social life. My friends know I’m not there and know how to contact me, and they do. An event that is exclusively organized on FB is not an event I want to participate in, so I don’t. Dumping FB probably improved my social life and mental health since I’m not wasting so much life “scrolling the feed” anymore.
- yibg 6y ago
  It’s also not a requirement to have a phone, or internet, or electricity. Harder sure, but not a requirement right?
  - rantwasp 6y ago
    nah. let’s not compare electricity to a bloated social media platform. if FB goes away tomorrow we can pretty much keep going. if electricity goes away our society would crumble.
    - Scoundreller 6y ago
      I’d use “grid electricity” as my example. You can generate your own in the right circumstances, with a lot of benefits, but it can make things kinda difficult.
      - rantwasp 6y ago
        I agree with you that electricity is something that is required to live a "normal" life. Facebook is not.
vijaybritto 6y ago
I'm not getting the link between study and Facebook. Is it required in your country?
- Raed667 6y ago
  When I was in school, a lot of the teachers would create Facebook Groups per class to share documents, prep-work, assignments etc.. I think the school moved to a self hosted Moodle[0] by now, but when I was there having a Facebook account was definitely required. A friend of mine is also struggling with his kids' soccer practice as they only organize and do announcements over Facebook. [0] https://moodle.org https://moodle.org
- tester756 6y ago
  it isn't, but if you don't want to make everything harder for you like being aware of what's going on - (projects,tasks,exams,blabla), communication with all other students then you're basically forced.
easton 6y ago
What country are you in? In the US everything school related goes onto Canvas, Blackboard or Moodle. There's some other tools people use as well (Piazza being popular at some schools), but I've never heard of school info going primarily on Facebook, even for study groups.
- tester756 6y ago
  There's a lot of of informal stuff that you also want to know/be aware of from those facebook chats. It's not like the school itself requires you to use FB, but students desire to use it as a way of _our_ communication
  - easton 6y ago
    Interesting. Around here, that all goes on GroupMe or Discord.
    - tester756 6y ago
      I've been studying in different "mode", cuz it was on weekends so you could work while studying. Because of that I've been studying with people that were e.g 25 or 30 at 1st semester, so probably FB was the handiest solution for everybody. I guess if I started now with 19/20yos, then Discord would be way to go.

Unfortunely without FB studying (attending) would be 10 times harder.

rantwasp 6y ago

is it harder? maybe. is it a requirement? nah

tester756 6y ago
at some point of the increased difficulty it becomes a requirement.
- rantwasp 6y ago
  it does not. FB becoming a requirement is such a 1st world problem. Try living without clean water and come back to lecture me about “increased difficulty”
  - tester756 6y ago
    holy shit dude yea, water is required to live, facebook is required to get degree times easier in my example, those aren't mutually excluisive what do you want to argue here about, except just arguing for the sake of arguing? I don't like fb, I don't use it when I don't have to and after graduation I'm probably not going to use it more often than once a X months, but I had to have & sometimes use it unless I wanted to make my life harder - I don't like it, but that's the reality.
    - rantwasp 6y ago
      I am not arguing with you. I am pointing out FB is a POS and that it should not be required. Period. Anything that uses FB as a way of keeping people informed should use at least another channel to disseminate that information, preferably not tied to big corporations.
      - tester756 6y ago
        >should use at least another channel how are you going to convince $whole_group_of_students_of_given_year to move communication off the facebook?
        herbst 6y ago
        By not participating, loudly. Easy as that By taking part you just make this more normal/ok than it really is
        tester756 6y ago
        and if nobody moves then? then I'm at the disadvantage, sad but that's the reality.
        johannes1234321 6y ago
        Maybe that would work now (while nowadays some people look confussed at me that I don't have an instagram account) but at least ten years ago that brought a reaction like "weirdo" and people continued to use their group. In some cases you have a friend who relates messages to you. In these days, where in presence school in many places doesn't happen students know each other only virtually, if you don't hang out where the crowd is, there is no chance of getting information.
        ryandrake 6y ago
        If some group of friends shuns you because they insist on you using Facebook, then I have bad news for you: they might not be such good friends as you think. I’ve been off FB for close to 10 years now and I can say with confidence that it has not had any measurable detrimental effect on my social life. My friends know I’m not there and know how to contact me, and they do. An event that is exclusively organized on FB is not an event I want to participate in, so I don’t. Dumping FB probably improved my social life and mental health since I’m not wasting so much life “scrolling the feed” anymore.
yibg 6y ago
It’s also not a requirement to have a phone, or internet, or electricity. Harder sure, but not a requirement right?
- rantwasp 6y ago
  nah. let’s not compare electricity to a bloated social media platform. if FB goes away tomorrow we can pretty much keep going. if electricity goes away our society would crumble.
  - Scoundreller 6y ago
    I’d use “grid electricity” as my example. You can generate your own in the right circumstances, with a lot of benefits, but it can make things kinda difficult.
    - rantwasp 6y ago
      I agree with you that electricity is something that is required to live a "normal" life. Facebook is not.

vijaybritto 6y ago

I'm not getting the link between study and Facebook. Is it required in your country?

Raed667 6y ago
When I was in school, a lot of the teachers would create Facebook Groups per class to share documents, prep-work, assignments etc.. I think the school moved to a self hosted Moodle[0] by now, but when I was there having a Facebook account was definitely required. A friend of mine is also struggling with his kids' soccer practice as they only organize and do announcements over Facebook. [0] https://moodle.org https://moodle.org
tester756 6y ago
it isn't, but if you don't want to make everything harder for you like being aware of what's going on - (projects,tasks,exams,blabla), communication with all other students then you're basically forced.

easton 6y ago

What country are you in? In the US everything school related goes onto Canvas, Blackboard or Moodle. There's some other tools people use as well (Piazza being popular at some schools), but I've never heard of school info going primarily on Facebook, even for study groups.

tester756 6y ago
There's a lot of of informal stuff that you also want to know/be aware of from those facebook chats. It's not like the school itself requires you to use FB, but students desire to use it as a way of _our_ communication
- easton 6y ago
  Interesting. Around here, that all goes on GroupMe or Discord.
  - tester756 6y ago
    I've been studying in different "mode", cuz it was on weekends so you could work while studying. Because of that I've been studying with people that were e.g 25 or 30 at 1st semester, so probably FB was the handiest solution for everybody. I guess if I started now with 19/20yos, then Discord would be way to go.