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Because the prefix stays the same. And many ISPs that provide IPv6 don’t rotate very often, if at all.

Dylan16807 6y ago
For most ISPs the IPv4 acts exactly the same way, being almost but not quite stable. I don't understand how that's a downside to IPv6.
- zinekeller 6y ago
  Because "most ISPs" are actually wrong, it's "most American ISPs". In rest of the world, unless you're explicitly requested static IPs, your IPv4 (and IPv6) addresses are being rotated (usually either daily or weekly). There's a reason why dynamic DNS services are popular. P.S. If your security paradigm relies on IP addresses being semi-stable, you need to overhaul it.
  - Dylan16807 6y ago
    >In rest of the world, unless you're explicitly requested static IPs, your IPv4 (and IPv6) addresses are being rotated (usually either daily or weekly). Fair, but that's still IPv4 and IPv6 rotating at the same rate.
  - Hamuko 6y ago
    >In rest of the world, unless you're explicitly requested static IPs, your IPv4 (and IPv6) addresses are being rotated (usually either daily or weekly). I'm in the rest of the world and my non-static IP address almost never changes. I actually memorised my external IP address at one point since I saw it so often.
  - BlueTemplar 6y ago
    This is wrong, at least in Europe, static IP is considered to be best practice.
    - BrandoElFollito 6y ago
      I live in France and work in IT and never heard about this "best practice". Who claims that? In use the highest fibre offering from Orange and have a dynamic IP. Fixed IP is for "professionals".
      - BlueTemplar 6y ago
        RIPE : https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-690#5-2--why-non-persistent-assignments-are-considered-harmful https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-690#5-2--why-non... That's funny, because I kind of have the "lowest" fiber offering from Orange, and I don't think my IP ever changed ? (I wouldn't bet on it thought.)
        BrandoElFollito 6y ago
        The RIPE article is about IPv6. I use only v4 I monitor closely my Internet connection (since I serve stuff on it, and also because why not) and I saw my IP changing and wandering throughout the Ile-de-France. I would say that the changes are every 6 months or so (since one of my domain is with Gandi I had to write a checker and change the assignment through their API)
        BlueTemplar 6y ago
        If you only use IPv4, then these days (with not only the Asiatic countries never having got IPv4, but Europe having ran out if IPv4 addresses), technically you don't have a "real" Internet connection any more.
        BrandoElFollito 6y ago
        I do not understand what you are saying. Do you imply thet IPv4 is non-existant in Asia?? How having ran out of IPv4 means that there is no "rea" Internet? Honestly - it would be great if IPv6 caught up but the standard, first choice is IPv4.

For most ISPs the IPv4 acts exactly the same way, being almost but not quite stable. I don't understand how that's a downside to IPv6.

zinekeller 6y ago
Because "most ISPs" are actually wrong, it's "most American ISPs". In rest of the world, unless you're explicitly requested static IPs, your IPv4 (and IPv6) addresses are being rotated (usually either daily or weekly). There's a reason why dynamic DNS services are popular. P.S. If your security paradigm relies on IP addresses being semi-stable, you need to overhaul it.
- Dylan16807 6y ago
  >In rest of the world, unless you're explicitly requested static IPs, your IPv4 (and IPv6) addresses are being rotated (usually either daily or weekly). Fair, but that's still IPv4 and IPv6 rotating at the same rate.
- Hamuko 6y ago
  >In rest of the world, unless you're explicitly requested static IPs, your IPv4 (and IPv6) addresses are being rotated (usually either daily or weekly). I'm in the rest of the world and my non-static IP address almost never changes. I actually memorised my external IP address at one point since I saw it so often.
- BlueTemplar 6y ago
  This is wrong, at least in Europe, static IP is considered to be best practice.
  - BrandoElFollito 6y ago
    I live in France and work in IT and never heard about this "best practice". Who claims that? In use the highest fibre offering from Orange and have a dynamic IP. Fixed IP is for "professionals".
    - BlueTemplar 6y ago
      RIPE : https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-690#5-2--why-non-persistent-assignments-are-considered-harmful https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-690#5-2--why-non... That's funny, because I kind of have the "lowest" fiber offering from Orange, and I don't think my IP ever changed ? (I wouldn't bet on it thought.)
      - BrandoElFollito 6y ago
        The RIPE article is about IPv6. I use only v4 I monitor closely my Internet connection (since I serve stuff on it, and also because why not) and I saw my IP changing and wandering throughout the Ile-de-France. I would say that the changes are every 6 months or so (since one of my domain is with Gandi I had to write a checker and change the assignment through their API)
        BlueTemplar 6y ago
        If you only use IPv4, then these days (with not only the Asiatic countries never having got IPv4, but Europe having ran out if IPv4 addresses), technically you don't have a "real" Internet connection any more.
        BrandoElFollito 6y ago
        I do not understand what you are saying. Do you imply thet IPv4 is non-existant in Asia?? How having ran out of IPv4 means that there is no "rea" Internet? Honestly - it would be great if IPv6 caught up but the standard, first choice is IPv4.