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The Browser – WorldWideWeb Next Application (2019)
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- oefrha 6y agoDiscussed at the time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19249373 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19249373
- dang 6y agoAlong with an assortment of smaller threads: The Browser – WorldWideWeb Next Application - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25013103 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25013103 - Nov 2020 (8 comments) The Browser – WorldWideWeb NeXT Application - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24955122 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24955122 - Oct 2020 (1 comment) CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24939929 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24939929 - Oct 2020 (6 comments) WorldWideWeb - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19494518 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19494518 - March 2019 (1 comment) CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19249373 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19249373 - Feb 2019 (44 comments) CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild: 2019 rebuilding of the original NeXT web browser - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19183316 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19183316 - Feb 2019 (1 comment)
- cyberlab 6y agoWhat's this? Some sort of 98.css[0] type thing that mimics an oldskool browser's UI? Because the site is vague on what the UI elements are supposed to be for. [0] hhttps://jdan.github.io/98.css/ https://jdan.github.io/98.css/
- genezeta 6y ago> What's this? From the site: > In February 2019, in celebration of the thirtieth anniversary of the development of WorldWideWeb, a group of developers and designers convened at CERN to rebuild the original browser within a contemporary browser, allowing users around the world to experience the rather humble origins of this transformative technology.
- mattowen_uk 6y agoWow. I don't want to be churlish but you should know your internet history. 'WorldWideWeb'[1] was the client application co-developed by Tim Berners-Lee and is the original 'Web Browser'. When you click on the top right button on the linked site, you are shown an interactive copy of WorldWideWeb running on a emulated NextStep[2] desktop. --- [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldWideWeb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldWideWeb [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXTSTEP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXTSTEP
- avodonosov 6y agoThank you. I thought that's just an article about the NeXT browser. Now I noticed the button.
- caslon 6y agoNot...quite. It's not an emulated NeXTSTEP desktop or WorldWideWeb itself. It's just a tribute to it. They made a blog post on how they made it a few years ago, if I recall correctly. It's just some UI chrome on top of some Javascript.
- mattowen_uk 6y agoI was simplifying. :)
- SllX 6y agoImitation NeXTSTEP actually, to imitate the original operating system WorldWideWeb was released on. Your confusion is understandable though and you don’t deserve to be buried for it. Win95 and by extension Win98 and later did take some uh, inspiration, from NeXTSTEP.
- teddyh 6y agoSomething they missed, which was a feature i found notable when I first used NeXTSTEP, was that all text was selectable, even in dialog boxes; useful for copying and pasting messages, etc. But here in this web app, they seem to have gone out of their way to make all text non-selectable.
- tempodox 6y agoI can select text, both on the landing page and in the WorldWideWeb browser. Using Safari on Mac. Are you on mobile?
- teddyh 6y agoNo, desktop. For example, in the menu, click on Info ▷ / Panel… I can’t select anything in that window, whereas if this was real NeXTSTEP, you’d be able to select any text, even the text with a gray background.
- tempodox 6y agoStrange, I can select and copy any text I want there. Same on the gray background. Could be that JS is involved and your browser blocks that somehow.
- kkoncevicius 6y agoThis image appears when clicking on the last white circle on the bottom of the page: https://worldwideweb.cern.ch/images/wow.jpg https://worldwideweb.cern.ch/images/wow.jpg I am not familiar with the history of the web, maybe someone can comment about who is the person in the image.
- billyjobob 6y agoThat is a photo of Jeremy Keith [https://adactio.com https://adactio.com] who was part of the team involved in this effort: https://worldwideweb.cern.ch/colophon/ https://worldwideweb.cern.ch/colophon/ [Copied from mxuribe at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19263365 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19263365 ]
- karmakaze 6y agoAh good memories--NeXTSTEP looks so clean. I always liked how the keyboard shortcuts merely show a lowercase (for Ctrl+letter) or uppercase letter (for Ctrl+Shift+letter).
- saagarjha 6y ago⌘ is implied, of course.
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- saagarjha 6y agoAs mentioned below, this is a webpage styled to look like the WorldWideWeb app, rather than it running in emulation. If you decide to try the latter (Previous is a good way to do it) you’ll find that in recent years servers have stopped responding to WorldWideWeb at all, which is kind of sad. TLS is of course a no-go, but even on plaintext HTTP many servers these days will immediately respond with a 400 and drop the connection if they don’t like what they see. Just a couple years ago I could point WorldWideWeb at my personal website and it would render it mostly coherently, but at some point GitHub Pages decided to stop serving those requests because they don’t have an HTTP version number. I guess it’s just a casualty in the march towards newer web standards as people forget the existence of older browsers.
- userbinator 6y agoI believe it lacks the Host: header, which means sites with virtual hosting (the vast majority of them) instead of a specific IP won't work.
- saagarjha 6y agoIt does, but in that case GitHub at least scrapes together a proper 404.
- SeanLuke 6y agoAll of the window title bars and the menu title bar are utterly wrong in design and format. What's going on with that? That's not at all how WWW.app looked. Why would this page intentionally change them?