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> Finder is unbelievably bad compared to Nautilus Whats so bad about finder?

lostlogin 5y ago
The ones that have bugged me today: It randomly forgets view preferences. There is something weird about SMB shares where they appear mounted but actually aren’t. It doesn’t have scroll bars in its default state. MacOS is my favourite by a mile, but there are some major warts, though the finder isn’t my major gripe.
- fiddlerwoaroof 5y ago
  The scrollbar thing is system-wide, not Finder-specific: it’s definitely a somewhat annoying default.
- nmlt 5y ago
  Well, concerning SMB shares I had the same problem in Nautilus a few days ago.
one2three4 5y ago
UI. Add a shortcut to a folder. Go there. Now try to go to parent folder... Open a folder with images. How on earth do you switch to visible thumbnails? And more like that. These things should be intuitive and easy to do.
- fiddlerwoaroof 5y ago
  Unless I’m completely misunderstanding you, showing Thumbnails has an obvious button on the toolbar. Go to parent is harder, but I think for the sequence you describe there’s a back button on the toolbar that will do what you want. Otherwise, you can use the breadcrumb bar at the bottom (can’t remember if this is a default setting or not) or open the Go menu and learn that Command-Up is the shortcut for “parent directory”. (A little later you discover this is symmetrical: Command-Up goes “up” out of the folder you’re looking at, Command-Down goes “down” into the selected item.)
- nmlt 5y ago
  >Open a folder with images. How on earth do you switch to visible thumbnails? It's really easy, or am I misunderstanding you? View -> as Icons. It even has a keyboard shortcut. Or press space bar while with the file selected.
- __david__ 5y ago
  To go to the parent, command click on the title in the title bar of the window. I don’t know how you’d ever guess that, but I remember it back from the Mac OS 9 days.
nmlt 5y ago
Yeah, I am wondering about that too. Finder can rename multiple files and has a goto folder option. Edit: I couldn't find a goto option in Nautilus. I don't know how I missed batch rename in Nautilus... Still, if Nautilus has any advanced features, they're well hidden.
- fiddlerwoaroof 5y ago
  I agree, I’ve always found the Finder extremely usable, especially once you’ve taken a couple minutes to browse the menus and learn the Keyboard Shortcuts. One interesting thing I’ve noticed is that people don’t seem to bother to look at the menus anymore: one of the first things I’ve always done with a new application (ever since Windows 3.1 on a Pentium 90) is open the menus and skim the menu items to figure out the basic functionality available.
  - read_if_gay_ 5y ago
    The feature I miss most on Linux is hitting space to get a preview of any file.
    - nmlt 5y ago
      Nautilus has sushi. It's not as good as Preview in MacOS but at least works similarily.
      - tonyedgecombe 5y ago
        Preview is a gem on macOS, it's probably what I miss most when I use Windows.
      - Hamuko 5y ago
        You mean Quick Look? Preview is the image viewer / PDF reader.
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  Selecting multiple files and pressing F2 or "Rename Files…" under the context menu is about as intuitive for renaming multiple files as I can possibly imagine.
krzyk 5y ago
Both Finder nad Nautilus are bad. It's like using Explorer (not IE) in Windows. CLI makes it better and if more graphical view is required then Midnight Commander on Linux/Mac or Total Commander on windows. More about finder - why it doesn't show the whole path? It is like it was intentionally made not to trouble people with filesystems.
Hamuko 5y ago
Not having used Nautilus, there's a bunch of bad things about the Finder I can complain about. The tabs. First of all, they're Safari-style tabs and Safari has awful tabs. And then there's a preference called "open folders in new tabs instead of windows". Open up a Finder window, open Terminal and run `open /path/to/directory`. What happens? Directory opens in a new Finder window. There's no way to have Finder remember what size a window should be. There's a bunch of tricks that people post online of how you can have Finder remember a window size but they don't work. It might register it on a folder-level but then you run `open /path/to/directory` and it opens up a postage stamp sized window (even though it should open a tab). And where the hell is cut and paste?
- aniforprez 5y ago
  It's honestly surprising how absolutely horrible it is after years and the new Big Sur only have it a fresh coat of paint without fixing any of these issues
- ibiza 5y ago
  Cut & paste is Copy followed by Option-Paste: Cmd-C, nav to destination, Opt-Cmd-V
  - Hamuko 5y ago
    But that's not cut and paste. That's copy and special paste. And I don't want to start training my brain to use a different set of keys to do the exact same thing that I can do elsewhere just because Apple thinks I should.
vehemenz 5y ago
The only thing I can think of is that Finder doesn't support SFTP out of the box. It's a bit embarrassing that Apple doesn't support an entry-level feature like that, but otherwise Finder has been steadily improving for the past few years.

The ones that have bugged me today: It randomly forgets view preferences. There is something weird about SMB shares where they appear mounted but actually aren’t. It doesn’t have scroll bars in its default state. MacOS is my favourite by a mile, but there are some major warts, though the finder isn’t my major gripe.

fiddlerwoaroof 5y ago
The scrollbar thing is system-wide, not Finder-specific: it’s definitely a somewhat annoying default.
nmlt 5y ago
Well, concerning SMB shares I had the same problem in Nautilus a few days ago.

one2three4 5y ago

UI. Add a shortcut to a folder. Go there. Now try to go to parent folder... Open a folder with images. How on earth do you switch to visible thumbnails? And more like that. These things should be intuitive and easy to do.

fiddlerwoaroof 5y ago
Unless I’m completely misunderstanding you, showing Thumbnails has an obvious button on the toolbar. Go to parent is harder, but I think for the sequence you describe there’s a back button on the toolbar that will do what you want. Otherwise, you can use the breadcrumb bar at the bottom (can’t remember if this is a default setting or not) or open the Go menu and learn that Command-Up is the shortcut for “parent directory”. (A little later you discover this is symmetrical: Command-Up goes “up” out of the folder you’re looking at, Command-Down goes “down” into the selected item.)
nmlt 5y ago
>Open a folder with images. How on earth do you switch to visible thumbnails? It's really easy, or am I misunderstanding you? View -> as Icons. It even has a keyboard shortcut. Or press space bar while with the file selected.
__david__ 5y ago
To go to the parent, command click on the title in the title bar of the window. I don’t know how you’d ever guess that, but I remember it back from the Mac OS 9 days.

nmlt 5y ago

Yeah, I am wondering about that too. Finder can rename multiple files and has a goto folder option. Edit: I couldn't find a goto option in Nautilus. I don't know how I missed batch rename in Nautilus... Still, if Nautilus has any advanced features, they're well hidden.

fiddlerwoaroof 5y ago
I agree, I’ve always found the Finder extremely usable, especially once you’ve taken a couple minutes to browse the menus and learn the Keyboard Shortcuts. One interesting thing I’ve noticed is that people don’t seem to bother to look at the menus anymore: one of the first things I’ve always done with a new application (ever since Windows 3.1 on a Pentium 90) is open the menus and skim the menu items to figure out the basic functionality available.
- read_if_gay_ 5y ago
  The feature I miss most on Linux is hitting space to get a preview of any file.
  - nmlt 5y ago
    Nautilus has sushi. It's not as good as Preview in MacOS but at least works similarily.
    - tonyedgecombe 5y ago
      Preview is a gem on macOS, it's probably what I miss most when I use Windows.
    - Hamuko 5y ago
      You mean Quick Look? Preview is the image viewer / PDF reader.
ben-schaaf 5y ago
Selecting multiple files and pressing F2 or "Rename Files…" under the context menu is about as intuitive for renaming multiple files as I can possibly imagine.

krzyk 5y ago

Both Finder nad Nautilus are bad. It's like using Explorer (not IE) in Windows. CLI makes it better and if more graphical view is required then Midnight Commander on Linux/Mac or Total Commander on windows. More about finder - why it doesn't show the whole path? It is like it was intentionally made not to trouble people with filesystems.

Hamuko 5y ago

Not having used Nautilus, there's a bunch of bad things about the Finder I can complain about. The tabs. First of all, they're Safari-style tabs and Safari has awful tabs. And then there's a preference called "open folders in new tabs instead of windows". Open up a Finder window, open Terminal and run `open /path/to/directory`. What happens? Directory opens in a new Finder window. There's no way to have Finder remember what size a window should be. There's a bunch of tricks that people post online of how you can have Finder remember a window size but they don't work. It might register it on a folder-level but then you run `open /path/to/directory` and it opens up a postage stamp sized window (even though it should open a tab). And where the hell is cut and paste?

aniforprez 5y ago
It's honestly surprising how absolutely horrible it is after years and the new Big Sur only have it a fresh coat of paint without fixing any of these issues
ibiza 5y ago
Cut & paste is Copy followed by Option-Paste: Cmd-C, nav to destination, Opt-Cmd-V
- Hamuko 5y ago
  But that's not cut and paste. That's copy and special paste. And I don't want to start training my brain to use a different set of keys to do the exact same thing that I can do elsewhere just because Apple thinks I should.

vehemenz 5y ago

The only thing I can think of is that Finder doesn't support SFTP out of the box. It's a bit embarrassing that Apple doesn't support an entry-level feature like that, but otherwise Finder has been steadily improving for the past few years.