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OpenTTD 1.11
- whywhywhywhy 6y agoOpenTTD was a godsend when I only had a 15 year old laptop and was visiting family with bad internet. Also if anyone doesn't know OpenRCT2 also exists now and works great too. https://openrct2.org/ https://openrct2.org/
- alexktz 6y agoSame here. It runs on a potato and is a prime example of gameplay over eye candy for me. It's pretty cool that some of the community for this game ended up on the dev team for Factorio, another graphically lacking but deeply wonderful game.
- tasogare 6y ago> Factorio, another graphically lacking Not true anymore with HD graphics finalized.
- alexktz 6y agoWhat I meant was it's not a Cyberpunk eye candy, but lacking in general substance type of game. It's a fairly basic top down 2d game still.
- Sohcahtoa82 6y agoIf you liked Factorio but wanted something with a little more eye candy, check out Dyson Sphere Program. It doesn't have as much depth as Factorio, but it'll still scratch that factory-building itch. It also came into early access only a couple months ago, and the devs are actively improving it.
- dirkhe 6y agoThe new parkitect is really close to RCT2 and has multiplayer. IMHO it's a great alternative.
- danielg0 6y agoI've lost many hours to OpenTTD, so great to see more people might find out about it now it's on Steam. To anyone who has only played single-player, I would recommend trying out one of the many servers - the massive networks some players make can be crazy.
- progval 6y agoAny tips to find a server that has just started yet has players, short of convincing friends to start a game with you?
- edejong 6y agoI'd join!
- danielg0 6y agoSome servers restart automatically as soon as it gets to the year 2050, so by figuring out how long a game usually lasts and when the current game started you can make a guess as to when the next one will start. The servers run by the OpenTTD reddit even have an online status website with game logs (https://ttdredd.it/ https://ttdredd.it/). I tended to play there as whenever a game started, there were always a half-dozen players online.
- RankingMember 6y agoI wish I still had the time to play this game for hours at a time like I did when I was a kid. Good memories. That soundtrack was fantastic. The composer performed it with real instruments sometime in the past few years and it really brought on those nostalgic feelings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSFsrmLhC00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSFsrmLhC00
- brandrick 6y agoAmazing, thanks for sharing. Loved this game sooooo much.
- n3k5 6y agoHehe, YouTube tells me that I'd hit ‘thumbs up’ on that video once upon a time. Probably put it on a playlist, too. However, that link is now obsolete — behold the more official version: https://youtu.be/OuJy9oCdUns https://youtu.be/OuJy9oCdUns N.B. apart from being more official by virtue of being on the channel of John Broomhall himself, which has accumulated a breathtaking 52 subscribers so far (correction: 53 as of now), the audio quality is also better.
- rossmohax 6y agoThanks, this is my coding playlist for next week or so now.
- mstade 6y agoThis thread made my day – thank you so much for sharing!
- nonbirithm 6y agoThe popularity of some artists on social networking platforms is pretty interesting at times. There are people like Yoshitoshi ABe who have contributed to some reasonably famous works in the past (like serial experiments lain) and yet their livestreams have at most 30 people watching at any given moment. With that many people you can literally interact with the person themselves and they will have time to respond to everyone. It indicates to me how they approach their work, in an era of content creators wanting higher subscriber counts. But at the same time they're probably well enough off from previous successes, so maybe the necessity for self-promotion isn't there. https://youtube.com/c/abflygm https://youtube.com/c/abflygm
- calin2k 6y agothere is also openRA https://www.openra.net/ https://www.openra.net/ "OpenRA is an open source project that recreates and modernizes classic real time strategy games, like Red Alert, Command & Conquer, and Dune 2000."
- willvarfar 6y agoAwesome! I remember the small but vibrant modding community that sprung up around Tiberian Sun, which came out just as people were getting online. And then, a few years later, Glest. There were so many mods and factions for Glest!
- midasuni 6y agoAnnihilated.com was a major early community for me
- dragontamer 6y agoI got into OpenTTD when I realized that it was a major source of inspiration for Factorio. Some notes: * OpenTTD is more "purely" about transportation. While Factorio has very good train-logic (block-signals vs chain-signals), OpenTTD has bridges, tunnels, terrain modifications, basic signals, path-based signals, entry/exit signals and more. OpenTTD Trains slow down going up hills and around turns: meaning optimal train pathing requires significant thought into terrain flatness and turn radius. * OpenTTD also has planes, boats, trucks, and busses. Furthermore: log trains can only carry logs, passenger trains can only carry passengers. While the item-tree of OpenTTD is simpler, the overall logistics of transportation are far more complex. Of course, Trains are the most interesting part. (Boats have no collision detection. Trucks have very low throughput and are mainly just an early-game / simplicity option. Airplanes are relatively simple: fill them up until your airports are full) * OpenTTD train scheduling is far deeper than Factorio. Your schedules can include target dates (ex: 30 days between TownA and TownB, with 4 days target of loading/unloading time), as well as multiple trains that share a schedule. Trains also require maintenance and begin to break down if you neglect maintenance. Learning to build high-throughput maintenance networks is part of OpenTTD. * Trains evolve throughout the years based off of technology. Early on, coal-based trains are slow, clumsy and unreliable. Eventually diesel trains pop up but are unreliable until the technology matures (in contrast: coal/steam is at max reliability). Then electricity (but diesel is now max reliability, and electric is low reliable). Etc. etc. * No "inserters", no "biters", no "defense". No blueprints, no factory designs. Its purely a game about moving items from one place to another. Turns out that in of itself is sufficient to make a game around. * You cannot control the placement of primary industries or cities in OpenTTD. They're part of the "terrain" so to speak, its your job to connect them somehow. * OpenTTD automatically grows factories / towns / industry based on how quickly you service them (aka: Trains grow things the fastest). The better you service a town, the more passengers it generates. As such, you INEVITABLY will grow until your network saturates. * As such: good players aim for extremely high bandwidth designs, knowing full well that all aspects of the game will grow to meet whatever bandwidth you design. (In contrast: Factorio only needs to be designed for the level of traffic you ever plan for a region. In fact, mines begin to run out of ore eventually, so traffic slowly declines in any given situation, sans "infinite mining productivity science".) The growth-formulas for towns / industry seems a bit unintuitive at first: but know full well its all about encouraging you to make faster-and-faster train networks. EDIT: * Latency matters in OpenTTD. All goods have a "rot" rate, so to speak. Things like Coal almost never lose value, but passengers and mail (two things you can transport) are extremely sensitive to latency. Running partially-empty trains for lower-latency is possibly more lucrative than running full-trains (but having your passengers and/or mail wait longer).
- Lammy 6y agoSee also: SimuTrans, a game written from the ground up with direct inspiration from TTD. OpenTTD on the other hand was originally a decompiled/refactored TTD, but that parity was achieved way back in the late 2000s and since then it has gained many more features that the original TTD never had. https://www.simutrans.com/en/ https://www.simutrans.com/en/ https://web.archive.org/web/20101031184339/http://www.funkelwerk.de/site/index.php/projects/simutrans/years-1997-2001 https://web.archive.org/web/20101031184339/http://www.funkel...
- Jenk 6y agoIt's a very different game though. (Open)TTD is about mass movement of resources with (often ludicrous amounts of) goods/passengers to move in order to chase ratings and promote industry and town growth at a very macro scale. Simutrans.. you buy one too many buses, or one that is over sized for your route (even barely) and your company is bust in a week.
- Lammy 6y agoYeah, I don't personally care very much for SimuTrans either compared to OpenTTD, but I felt it was worth mentioning since some people might prefer its gameplay to the fairly unrealistic default OpenTTD economy. e: It is also worth checking out OpenTTD's Passenger/Cargo Distribution options: https://wiki.openttd.org/en/Manual/Passenger%20and%20cargo%20distribution https://wiki.openttd.org/en/Manual/Passenger%20and%20cargo%2...
- Jenk 6y agoMashinksy[1] also worth a shout but the outputs are much more limited than OTTD. [1]: https://store.steampowered.com/app/598960/Mashinky/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/598960/Mashinky/
- Akronymus 6y agoTo add to your comment: Widelands is amazing too. A settlers 2 clone/remake/inspired. https://www.widelands.org/ https://www.widelands.org/
- Jenk 6y agoIt's hard to put into words what I think this game really excels at. I've played this game since it was launched as Transport Tycoon in 1994. Nothing else has anywhere near that kind of longevity for me, and I don't limit this to games either. Of course I use all kinds of "mods" now to enhance the gameplay - notably JGR's Pack[1] - mostly for the programmable signals and similar extensions, but the core game is mostly the same. Simply brilliant. It deserves some kind of award/title/recognition for it's.. je ne sais quois. [1]: https://github.com/JGRennison/OpenTTD-patches https://github.com/JGRennison/OpenTTD-patches
- lelandbatey 6y agoIt's not _quite_ the same, but I find that Factorio with the Logistics Train Network (LTN) mod leads to an extremely OpenTTD-like experience. Quite fun, though OpenTTD performs far better (not throwing shade at Factorio, it performs great, but somewhere around the 100 SPM mark you'll start to see performance massively drop and I haven't seen anyone able to maintain 60+ fps past 1000 SPM without massively changing the design to optimize around Factorio's performance bottlenecks).
- jokoon 6y agoIs there a tutorial to learn how to play this?
- dragontamer 6y ago1. Create a small airport in the two largest, and furthest away cities on the map. EDIT: Larger cities have more passengers / mail. You're also paid per mile, so the further away it is, the more profit you make. 2. Buy an aircraft, and send them to deliver passengers/mail between the two large and far away cities. 3. As long as this aircraft doesn't crash, you're now set to mess around at your own pace. It delivers a solid amount of cash. If the aircraft crashes (bad luck), either restart the game, or take out a loan for a 2nd aircraft.
- blibble 6y agoas a note they went some way to resolving the unbalance nature of aircraft by applying a penalty multiplier though it's still extremely profitable, vs. say the infrastructure costs of railways
- n3k5 6y agohttps://wiki.openttd.org/en/Manual/Tutorial/ https://wiki.openttd.org/en/Manual/Tutorial/
- jan46 6y agoI love OpenTTD, the only game i played even more is probably dunemud.net as i'm also a big fan of Dune ;-)
- nix23 6y ago>dunemud.net Never heard of it...playing right now...thanks for the tip!!
- princevegeta89 6y agoGreat game. Picked the original Transport Tycoon up as a kid back around 2000. However I've been following OpenTTD since my teens and now recently started playing online when time permits. This is a no-frills game and is a lot of fun in multiplayer mode.
- dang 6y agoIf curious, past threads: OpenTTD 1.10 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22772536 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22772536 - OpenTTD Compiled to WebAssembly - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19538715 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19538715 - OpenTTD 1.8.0-RC1 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16725375 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16725375 -
- burgerrito 6y agoI really wish that this game has a proper subway/metro/underground railway though...
- xwdv 6y agoA wish someone would publish a book about how to succeed in this game and build high bandwidth networks so I can read it as I play.
- em3rgent0rdr 6y agoConsidering that OpenTTD is a remake and expansion of "Transport Tycoon Deluxe" which was released in 1995, which itself was an expanded and improved version of "Transport Tycoon" which was released in 1993. That's a 28-year lineage now. Few games still receive updates like that...and maybe OpenCiv which was remake of the 1996 Civ 2 which was a new version of the 1991 Civ. Maybe NetHack which was started in 1987 and a fork of the 1982 game Hack has the record for longevity of continuously-updated game.
- didip 6y agoOh man, this is still my favorite game 27 years later. Chris Sawyer (the original developer) is one of those OG 10x developer. Built an entire game + AI + windowed GUI in Assembly in 1992! Even before Windows 3.11 came out. I still remembered my first impression back in 1994 distinctly. I can open 20 different windows in Transport Tycoon and each window follows its own respective vehicle like a drone cam. The GUI windows themselves can be resized smoothly and piled on top of each other. Something that older version of Windows couldn't do. Also, the game was fairly small in size and incredibly stable. I thought to myself, this developer was a mega genius!
- mromanuk 6y agoThank you for writing this, I always was amazed by the smoothness of the GUI. You expressed all my thoughts!
- onlyrealcuzzo 6y agoI'm assuming he is calling DirectX or something through Assembly, right? Or did he write a graphics library in Assembly as well???
- exmadscientist 6y agoIf I remember right, the Windows versions of RCT, which descends from TT/TTD, use DirectX to allocate their framebuffer. Then they just operate directly on it, because the engine literally is older than DirectX.
- wtallis 6y agoThe original Transport Tycoon predated DirectX and ran on DOS. Later games like RollerCoaster Tycoon had basically the same UI and were also almost entirely written in assembly (despite now running on Windows rather than DOS), so it's clear that Sawyer pretty much did write a graphics library in assembly.
- texodus 6y agoTransport Tycoon (Jun 1994) was published over a year before the first version of DirectX (Sep 1995).
- RandomWorker 6y agoWhen i played this game I needed to install it using 4xA floppy 1.4mb files. I later picked up CD with the same game from a bin I think it was 12 gulden(before the euro Dutch currency). This game was so mind blowing, my friend and me we sit hours making trains. He would make one then me. OpenTTD was a revolution for me, now I pick up the game and every now and then and enjoy a hefty dose of nostalgia. The little tweaks make it more fun to play and playing against/with others online makes it fun. I think this is still the golden standard of sim games, also this guy pretty much made it on his own... absolutely some kind of mad genius level of programming skills.
- terom 6y agoSee the Transport Fever / Transport Fever 2 series for what I would consider the "modern" 3D equivalent... apart from the fancy graphics you also have individually simulated passengers and more freedoms in terms of track/tunnel/bridge layout, and that combined with the rail speed limit mechanics is great, but: * no multiplayer or AI, this is all solo/sandbox play... same thing as in TTD, you're economically limited at the start, but after a certain point you just have more money than you could ever spend * the game is performance limited, once you've grow your network and the towns on your map large enough, first the 2/3x speeds slow down to normal speed, and then eventually even that starts lagging. You can still get 100h+ playtime out of a normal map on a decent computer before it starts becoming too much of an issue, though. * Bridge building is fairly finicky, RIP "bridge pillar collision". OpenTTD is way more limited but also way more predictable. All in all, TTD/OpenTTD still has a lot going for it 25-30 years later, and I'll happily play both .
- gargalatas 6y agoWell, doctor, I am still playing this since 1994. Am I sick doctor? :D