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This also proves that the climate change initiative is a wash. They can't take co2 emissions seriously and at the same time demand 100k employees to spend 1 hou

This also proves that the climate change initiative is a wash. They can't take co2 emissions seriously and at the same time demand 100k employees to spend 1 hour a day driving to offices. That's like what, 100 millions gallons of gas per year, or 1 gigaton of co2, burned needlessly, only to improve some corporate metrics.

cozzyd 6y ago
Or you can take the bus or train?
- akadruid1 6y ago
  In most places, buses are not substantially better emissions-wise than private cars. Typical deployments have them travelling empty or nearly empty most of the day which negates the savings of packed rush hour trips. Trains are much better of course but only exist for a few routes. Both are substantially worse than working from home.
  - cozzyd 6y ago
    That certainly does not describe the buses I ride, and whether or not you take the bus has a very marginal effect on total emissions from the bus.
    - akadruid1 6y ago
      Yes and this is exactly the problem with buses! You and everyone else rides the bus on the core routes at the peak times, but the buses run for long hours and the routes cover more areas than the core, so the average utilisation is very low and pollution per passenger-km very high - although the average passenger experiences crowded buses. Deciding to switch a solo peak hour journey from a SUV to bus might help a little, but the bus will still be driving empty outside the peak times & routes. Working from home takes a passenger out of the peak times entirely, and with a reduction in peak time travel then demand-responsive transport becomes more attractive than huge buses blindly following rigid routes, and eventually maybe we can dream that sustainable transport like walking and cycling might be deserve a safe place on the street.
- cblconfederate 6y ago
  Then you are polluting, wasting people's time, and spreading diseases
- frongpik 6y ago
  No, you can't. If it takes 30 mins to drive to office, it'll take 3 hours to get there by buses.

cozzyd 6y ago

Or you can take the bus or train?

akadruid1 6y ago
In most places, buses are not substantially better emissions-wise than private cars. Typical deployments have them travelling empty or nearly empty most of the day which negates the savings of packed rush hour trips. Trains are much better of course but only exist for a few routes. Both are substantially worse than working from home.
- cozzyd 6y ago
  That certainly does not describe the buses I ride, and whether or not you take the bus has a very marginal effect on total emissions from the bus.
  - akadruid1 6y ago
    Yes and this is exactly the problem with buses! You and everyone else rides the bus on the core routes at the peak times, but the buses run for long hours and the routes cover more areas than the core, so the average utilisation is very low and pollution per passenger-km very high - although the average passenger experiences crowded buses. Deciding to switch a solo peak hour journey from a SUV to bus might help a little, but the bus will still be driving empty outside the peak times & routes. Working from home takes a passenger out of the peak times entirely, and with a reduction in peak time travel then demand-responsive transport becomes more attractive than huge buses blindly following rigid routes, and eventually maybe we can dream that sustainable transport like walking and cycling might be deserve a safe place on the street.
cblconfederate 6y ago
Then you are polluting, wasting people's time, and spreading diseases
frongpik 6y ago
No, you can't. If it takes 30 mins to drive to office, it'll take 3 hours to get there by buses.