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I think parasites are those that want the web to be simply free and have free access to whatever they want regardless of the infrastructure cost of running the

I think parasites are those that want the web to be simply free and have free access to whatever they want regardless of the infrastructure cost of running the internet. It's the actual definition of parasites to feed off of a host organism. Pay and subscribe to all the sites you read or video sites you watch and let's see how many sites are left that you read. Incidentally I subscribe to a lot of online news sites and video sites to avoid ads where they bother me or to support the journalism, but not everyone can afford this, especially smaller publishers.

krageon 6y ago
The world isn't divided into just two choices for anything, including this. The fact that you can see only two isn't anyone's problem but yours.
- dialtone 6y ago
  What are you talking about? Advertising and marketing are among the oldest concepts and jobs in history and have since the early days of tv or journalism paid for free content. If you have a new business idea that represents this third way... What are you doing here? Build a business and become a billionaire.
  - why_Mr_Anderson 6y ago
    Now I see the problem. You never experienced what the internet was like when it wasn't as ad-infested as it is now. It might be hard to comprehend, but people who were passionated about something and wanted to make a website about that paid for it out of their own pockets without focusing mainly on 'monetization', 'ad revenue', 'SEO' and similar garbage. Unbelievable, isn't it?
    - UncleMeat 6y ago
      Just insisting that somebody is ignorant is pretty rude. The internet of the mid 90s had a lot of stuff for free. Usenet was great for certain groups of people. The internet of the mid 90s also lacked a ton of products that cost a ton of money to develop and maintain. People are frightened now of relying on Google to store their photos forever. Imagine storing your photos with a passion project operated by just some person in their spare time. We see people already getting pissed off when OSS developers stop maintaining projects. It'd be that problem times 1000.
      - krageon 6y ago
        > insisting that somebody is ignorant is pretty rude. This person claimed ignorance of the other party once and in context it's a very reasonable conclusion. There's nothing rude about that, except maybe when you find the state of ignorance bad in and of itself. That doesn't really make sense, as all humans are born ignorant. That's just how things are and that's what teaching is for. Which is what the post being discussed attempted to do.
candiodari 6y ago
You do, of course. You could buy ads, put empty space and fund these sites that way. You could even target yourself (within privacy limits of course). You could get some users together and fund this by a group.

krageon 6y ago

The world isn't divided into just two choices for anything, including this. The fact that you can see only two isn't anyone's problem but yours.

dialtone 6y ago
What are you talking about? Advertising and marketing are among the oldest concepts and jobs in history and have since the early days of tv or journalism paid for free content. If you have a new business idea that represents this third way... What are you doing here? Build a business and become a billionaire.
- why_Mr_Anderson 6y ago
  Now I see the problem. You never experienced what the internet was like when it wasn't as ad-infested as it is now. It might be hard to comprehend, but people who were passionated about something and wanted to make a website about that paid for it out of their own pockets without focusing mainly on 'monetization', 'ad revenue', 'SEO' and similar garbage. Unbelievable, isn't it?
  - UncleMeat 6y ago
    Just insisting that somebody is ignorant is pretty rude. The internet of the mid 90s had a lot of stuff for free. Usenet was great for certain groups of people. The internet of the mid 90s also lacked a ton of products that cost a ton of money to develop and maintain. People are frightened now of relying on Google to store their photos forever. Imagine storing your photos with a passion project operated by just some person in their spare time. We see people already getting pissed off when OSS developers stop maintaining projects. It'd be that problem times 1000.
    - krageon 6y ago
      > insisting that somebody is ignorant is pretty rude. This person claimed ignorance of the other party once and in context it's a very reasonable conclusion. There's nothing rude about that, except maybe when you find the state of ignorance bad in and of itself. That doesn't really make sense, as all humans are born ignorant. That's just how things are and that's what teaching is for. Which is what the post being discussed attempted to do.

candiodari 6y ago

You do, of course. You could buy ads, put empty space and fund these sites that way. You could even target yourself (within privacy limits of course). You could get some users together and fund this by a group.