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What's with the low key upvote count. Anyway, incoming donation.

by cudzich09 6y ago

SpikeDad 6y ago
Because he's an ass and self-aggrandizer.
- bradknowles 6y ago
  Just because he’s a classic “Angry New York Guy” and therefore is an ass, doesn’t make him wrong.
  - snvzz 6y ago
    He isn't even Angry. If anything, he's super chill despite all sorts of shit he's been through.
- dataflow 6y ago
  He's literally spent >8 years of his life posting free videos teaching people how to repair electronics, which is a worthy cause in itself. And he's been doing this actively against his own business's interests. And if you watch him you know he hardly ever even asks for financial help. He's put up with a lot of battles through the years and he's had trillion dollar companies try to shut his business down, and his no-nonsense attitude has kept him going to the point where he has a respectable business that now lets him devote 2 more years of his own life to fight this cause. You really feel your evaluation of him is accurate?
  - kiba 6y ago
    Hardy against his own business self interest. It's advertising for the Louis Rossmann brand. I have a macbook pro[1]. Who am I going to send it to if not Rossmann? [1] Assuming it's possible to get repairs for it.
    - dataflow 6y ago
      Oh come on. You're saying he's posting free educational board repair videos to advertise for his brand? Do you watch those videos? Like this one [1]? They're boring as hell. Their target audience is his competitors. You don't see the world flooding with repair shops doing the same thing if it's so profitable, do you? There's so much better advertising he could do if that was his goal. And I haven't even touched on everything else he has done to help other people get started doing board repairs. It's such a cynical and uncharitable distortion of reality to claim he's doing this for advertising. What's a guy supposed to do to make it even less of an advertisement if he wants to post tutoring videos and pay it forward? Does he need to talk trash about his own business & skills too (which he sometimes does btw)? While simultaneously claiming he's good enough that people should learn from him? With this kind of logic it's practically impossible for a mere mortal to start a business toward a good cause and provide free tutoring to his competitors without getting accused of doing it for his own self interest. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR94QHGlYRs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR94QHGlYRs
      - kiba 6y ago
        I am not saying that he intended it to be advertising for his brand, but that it works out to be advertising for his brand.
        addicted 6y ago
        Anytime someone does something good it works out to be advertising for their brand, whether that brand is a company or just a personal brand. Unless they do it in a way no one ever hears about it. In which case no one will ever be discussing it. So your comment is less than trivial, unless you’re implying that it’s a bad thing to do something good if you benefit from it even in the slightest.
        imtringued 6y ago
        Why is advertising bad? Because it is done in a manipulative, coercive, harmful or annoying way? In what way does he commit those advertising sins? If anything, his non repair videos are pretty awful emotional clickbait, but hey at least they are not advertising, right guys?
- phibz 6y ago
  I found his personal views on some of his live streams to be odious and problematic, specifically those relating to women and bullying others. That said, his actions around right to repair have been consistent and productive. I see them as a overall positive thing for society. Like most people things are seldom simple, and neither is he in my opinion. However I still choose to support his work on right to repair.
CivBase 6y ago
I suggest changing the title to "Crowdfunding a Direct Ballot Initiative for Right to Repair". The current title is probably not very attention-grabbing because it makes it sound like the video is just about Louis Rossmann's personal plans for the next couple years. If you don't know who Louis is, you'd probably overlook it without a second thought.
- dataflow 6y ago
  I didn't see this in time, and I don't know if it's OK to try this, but I guess someone can try posting the GoFundMe page as another link with that title?
- specialist 6y ago
  Rossmann's transformation is kind of amazing. It took me much longer to figure out that real change comes from policy work, legislation. Activists don't have many case studies, role models, mentors. Rossmann just sort of bootstrapped himself. $6m is a big lift. And I'm bearish about the initiative process, for this issue, at this time. It may prove a good move for the PR and awareness. And there's no shortage of consultants who will happily slurp up campaign dollars for no real benefit. (Noob groups and candidates are bread & butter for consultants.) I anticipate the Repair Preservation Group Action Fund will step back, come up with another strategy. Maybe a 501c3. Run the ALEC playbook. Model legislation. Find state level allies, like farmers. Pick some low hanging fruit. Get friendly legislators to file their legislation. Do the stump speechifying and speaker tour circuit.

What's with the low key upvote count. Anyway, incoming donation.

SpikeDad 6y ago

Because he's an ass and self-aggrandizer.

bradknowles 6y ago
Just because he’s a classic “Angry New York Guy” and therefore is an ass, doesn’t make him wrong.
- snvzz 6y ago
  He isn't even Angry. If anything, he's super chill despite all sorts of shit he's been through.
dataflow 6y ago
He's literally spent >8 years of his life posting free videos teaching people how to repair electronics, which is a worthy cause in itself. And he's been doing this actively against his own business's interests. And if you watch him you know he hardly ever even asks for financial help. He's put up with a lot of battles through the years and he's had trillion dollar companies try to shut his business down, and his no-nonsense attitude has kept him going to the point where he has a respectable business that now lets him devote 2 more years of his own life to fight this cause. You really feel your evaluation of him is accurate?
- kiba 6y ago
  Hardy against his own business self interest. It's advertising for the Louis Rossmann brand. I have a macbook pro[1]. Who am I going to send it to if not Rossmann? [1] Assuming it's possible to get repairs for it.
  - dataflow 6y ago
    Oh come on. You're saying he's posting free educational board repair videos to advertise for his brand? Do you watch those videos? Like this one [1]? They're boring as hell. Their target audience is his competitors. You don't see the world flooding with repair shops doing the same thing if it's so profitable, do you? There's so much better advertising he could do if that was his goal. And I haven't even touched on everything else he has done to help other people get started doing board repairs. It's such a cynical and uncharitable distortion of reality to claim he's doing this for advertising. What's a guy supposed to do to make it even less of an advertisement if he wants to post tutoring videos and pay it forward? Does he need to talk trash about his own business & skills too (which he sometimes does btw)? While simultaneously claiming he's good enough that people should learn from him? With this kind of logic it's practically impossible for a mere mortal to start a business toward a good cause and provide free tutoring to his competitors without getting accused of doing it for his own self interest. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR94QHGlYRs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR94QHGlYRs
    - kiba 6y ago
      I am not saying that he intended it to be advertising for his brand, but that it works out to be advertising for his brand.
      - addicted 6y ago
        Anytime someone does something good it works out to be advertising for their brand, whether that brand is a company or just a personal brand. Unless they do it in a way no one ever hears about it. In which case no one will ever be discussing it. So your comment is less than trivial, unless you’re implying that it’s a bad thing to do something good if you benefit from it even in the slightest.
      - imtringued 6y ago
        Why is advertising bad? Because it is done in a manipulative, coercive, harmful or annoying way? In what way does he commit those advertising sins? If anything, his non repair videos are pretty awful emotional clickbait, but hey at least they are not advertising, right guys?
phibz 6y ago
I found his personal views on some of his live streams to be odious and problematic, specifically those relating to women and bullying others. That said, his actions around right to repair have been consistent and productive. I see them as a overall positive thing for society. Like most people things are seldom simple, and neither is he in my opinion. However I still choose to support his work on right to repair.

CivBase 6y ago

I suggest changing the title to "Crowdfunding a Direct Ballot Initiative for Right to Repair". The current title is probably not very attention-grabbing because it makes it sound like the video is just about Louis Rossmann's personal plans for the next couple years. If you don't know who Louis is, you'd probably overlook it without a second thought.

dataflow 6y ago
I didn't see this in time, and I don't know if it's OK to try this, but I guess someone can try posting the GoFundMe page as another link with that title?
specialist 6y ago
Rossmann's transformation is kind of amazing. It took me much longer to figure out that real change comes from policy work, legislation. Activists don't have many case studies, role models, mentors. Rossmann just sort of bootstrapped himself. $6m is a big lift. And I'm bearish about the initiative process, for this issue, at this time. It may prove a good move for the PR and awareness. And there's no shortage of consultants who will happily slurp up campaign dollars for no real benefit. (Noob groups and candidates are bread & butter for consultants.) I anticipate the Repair Preservation Group Action Fund will step back, come up with another strategy. Maybe a 501c3. Run the ALEC playbook. Model legislation. Find state level allies, like farmers. Pick some low hanging fruit. Get friendly legislators to file their legislation. Do the stump speechifying and speaker tour circuit.