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Technically, Ubiquiti does have a local option. You can run the controller locally and disable cloud login.

IgorPartola 6y ago
That's how I run it, but it seems they are now pushing ads to local controllers and between this and deprecating recently released devices, I just completely lost trust in them.
- dgudkov 6y ago
  > it seems they are now pushing ads to local controllers The pervasiveness of adtech doesn't cease to impress me.
  - ClumsyPilot 6y ago
    I really hope that one day it will be remembered the same way we remember ritual sacrafice .
  - iamacyborg 6y ago
    It isn’t adtech, per se.
- philjohn 6y ago
  Small correction - if you don't have a product that would display stats in a portion of the "single pane of glass" control panel, it displays an ad instead of a "you don't have this product, no data to see here". Scummy? Sure ... especially if you don't have a Ubiquiti gateway but only AP's so the top part of the page is blocked out, but it's not exactly "pushing ads at me!" in the traditional sense - e.g. they're not targetting ads, they're not collecting data.
pseudalopex 6y ago
People have reported cloud login can't be disabled now.
- colechristensen 6y ago
  I set it up a few months ago with no cloud login, though it was a pain.
- winterphoenix96 6y ago
  It can still be disabled from the controller: New UI: Settings > System Settings > Administration > Enable Remote Access "Classic" UI: Settings > Remote Access > Enable Remote Access
  - pseudalopex 6y ago
    It sounds like it can be disabled on your own hardware but not Ubiquiti devices.
    - JonathonW 6y ago
      I have a Unifi Dream Machine Pro with cloud access turned off-- the setting for it (since the UDM Pro makes all applications accessible via the cloud, not just Unifi Network) is in the device settings rather than the Unifi Network controller settings.
surfsvammel 6y ago
Protect still needs cloud to be activated for authentication it seems. I used to have remote access turned off and accessed the video streams via the iOS app when my phone was on VPN to the local network. That no longer works. Remote access (cloud) needs to be activated in order for the iOS app to work, no matter if you are on the local network or not.
- nickphx 6y ago
  i've run my own controller locally for years without forced cloud login.. i've never used the ios app, what can you do from it that you can't do from the web interface?
  - nullsocket 6y ago
    He said Protect, which is only part of the newer Gen2 cloudkeys (controller + video surveillance). The app just lets you manage the basic config of your devices and see network stats. There is a separate app for viewing your security cameras via Unifi cloud.
- croutonwagon 6y ago
  When did that start? My controller is only on 6.0.43 but i can access it via iOS app on VPN. My contoller only does Wireless/AP management though. nothing more.
  - nullsocket 6y ago
    He said Protect, which only comes on the new cloud key gen2 devices and requires a Unifi cloud account. The old stand-alone controller (key or installer) does not unless you tie it to your Unifi cloud account.
daniellarusso 6y ago
It still checks for firmware updates, right?
danhorner 6y ago
I have been suspicious of their cloud config and run a docker image of the controller locally. I'm still on version 5.14 and all of the cloud features are optional. I just ignore them. I guess now I know not to upgrade!
- croutonwagon 6y ago
  When they introduced callhomes/telemetry sometime in the 5.x code i blocked their known DNS entries and then setup firewall rules to block all internet access outside of the Ubuntu Repos..

That's how I run it, but it seems they are now pushing ads to local controllers and between this and deprecating recently released devices, I just completely lost trust in them.

dgudkov 6y ago
> it seems they are now pushing ads to local controllers The pervasiveness of adtech doesn't cease to impress me.
- ClumsyPilot 6y ago
  I really hope that one day it will be remembered the same way we remember ritual sacrafice .
- iamacyborg 6y ago
  It isn’t adtech, per se.
philjohn 6y ago
Small correction - if you don't have a product that would display stats in a portion of the "single pane of glass" control panel, it displays an ad instead of a "you don't have this product, no data to see here". Scummy? Sure ... especially if you don't have a Ubiquiti gateway but only AP's so the top part of the page is blocked out, but it's not exactly "pushing ads at me!" in the traditional sense - e.g. they're not targetting ads, they're not collecting data.

pseudalopex 6y ago

People have reported cloud login can't be disabled now.

colechristensen 6y ago
I set it up a few months ago with no cloud login, though it was a pain.
winterphoenix96 6y ago
It can still be disabled from the controller: New UI: Settings > System Settings > Administration > Enable Remote Access "Classic" UI: Settings > Remote Access > Enable Remote Access
- pseudalopex 6y ago
  It sounds like it can be disabled on your own hardware but not Ubiquiti devices.
  - JonathonW 6y ago
    I have a Unifi Dream Machine Pro with cloud access turned off-- the setting for it (since the UDM Pro makes all applications accessible via the cloud, not just Unifi Network) is in the device settings rather than the Unifi Network controller settings.

surfsvammel 6y ago

Protect still needs cloud to be activated for authentication it seems. I used to have remote access turned off and accessed the video streams via the iOS app when my phone was on VPN to the local network. That no longer works. Remote access (cloud) needs to be activated in order for the iOS app to work, no matter if you are on the local network or not.

nickphx 6y ago
i've run my own controller locally for years without forced cloud login.. i've never used the ios app, what can you do from it that you can't do from the web interface?
- nullsocket 6y ago
  He said Protect, which is only part of the newer Gen2 cloudkeys (controller + video surveillance). The app just lets you manage the basic config of your devices and see network stats. There is a separate app for viewing your security cameras via Unifi cloud.
croutonwagon 6y ago
When did that start? My controller is only on 6.0.43 but i can access it via iOS app on VPN. My contoller only does Wireless/AP management though. nothing more.
- nullsocket 6y ago
  He said Protect, which only comes on the new cloud key gen2 devices and requires a Unifi cloud account. The old stand-alone controller (key or installer) does not unless you tie it to your Unifi cloud account.

daniellarusso 6y ago

It still checks for firmware updates, right?

danhorner 6y ago

I have been suspicious of their cloud config and run a docker image of the controller locally. I'm still on version 5.14 and all of the cloud features are optional. I just ignore them. I guess now I know not to upgrade!

croutonwagon 6y ago
When they introduced callhomes/telemetry sometime in the 5.x code i blocked their known DNS entries and then setup firewall rules to block all internet access outside of the Ubuntu Repos..