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>onboard NAND. I disagree. Having onboard NAND seems like a disadvantage, for like when it goes bad from all the usage. Should have one M.2 slot.

api 6y ago
These aren't mutually exclusive. I would vote for onboard NAND and an M.2 slot, and perhaps also a jumper or something to select which to boot from. Normal thing might be to boot from on-board NAND but put real workloads on M.2 if present. I have to also vote for crypto extensions. The Pi 4 is the only ARM64 I have ever seen that lacks AES and CLMUL. Makes it pretty lame for web serving, router/firewall/VPN gateway, etc.
- john_alan 6y ago
  Yep lack of crypto makes it dog slow for so many things. Including running a little Monero node or whatever. I would love to know why they chose to exclude this, it couldn’t make a big difference in price could it?
  - rubyist5eva 6y ago
    > Yep lack of crypto makes it dog slow for so many things. Including running a little Monero node or whatever. Good. The last thing we need is profit mad crypto miners buying up every single Pi and we end up with shortages and insane prices just like with gaming GPUs.
    - john_alan 6y ago
      Running a node is about seeding the chain not mining, ofc. Also a free market means people can do with the stuff they buy as they wish. Whether I mine on it or stick it up my arse is just as valid as you gaming.
      - rubyist5eva 6y ago
        Doesn't change the fact I'm glad they excluded features that make it unfavourable to crypto people - for any reason - so that I can buy a pi for what it's intended for at a decent price instead of wondering if people are buying them to shove them up their arse.
        sudosysgen 6y ago
        Crypto extensions will never make the rpi even remotely cost competitive with even very old GPUs. The main advantage will be general network ops.
        john_alan 6y ago
        I wouldn’t bother to educate someone so closed minded.
        rubyist5eva 6y ago
        Just because I don't want to shove a rasberry pi up my arse doesn't mean I'm closed minded.
      - justin66 6y ago
        > Whether I mine on it or stick it up my arse is just as valid as you gaming. I now understand why the Pi Zero comes standard without the GPIO header.
        rubyist5eva 6y ago
        Well, that's no fun.
    - api 6y ago
      He said node not miner. There is no way a Pi even with AES could possibly be worth running as a miner.
CameronNemo 6y ago
Have you seen the new firefly rk3568 offering? They have lots of I/O including an M.2 slot and SATA port.
- KindOne 6y ago
  Never heard of firefly. I've looked into it and I might get one with 8GB RAM. Thanks.
  - CameronNemo 6y ago
    Fair warning: the rk3568/rk3566 platform is very young. You may want to be sure that upstream uboot and Linux support the board before ordering. But the hardware looks promising.

api 6y ago

These aren't mutually exclusive. I would vote for onboard NAND and an M.2 slot, and perhaps also a jumper or something to select which to boot from. Normal thing might be to boot from on-board NAND but put real workloads on M.2 if present. I have to also vote for crypto extensions. The Pi 4 is the only ARM64 I have ever seen that lacks AES and CLMUL. Makes it pretty lame for web serving, router/firewall/VPN gateway, etc.

john_alan 6y ago
Yep lack of crypto makes it dog slow for so many things. Including running a little Monero node or whatever. I would love to know why they chose to exclude this, it couldn’t make a big difference in price could it?
- rubyist5eva 6y ago
  > Yep lack of crypto makes it dog slow for so many things. Including running a little Monero node or whatever. Good. The last thing we need is profit mad crypto miners buying up every single Pi and we end up with shortages and insane prices just like with gaming GPUs.
  - john_alan 6y ago
    Running a node is about seeding the chain not mining, ofc. Also a free market means people can do with the stuff they buy as they wish. Whether I mine on it or stick it up my arse is just as valid as you gaming.
    - rubyist5eva 6y ago
      Doesn't change the fact I'm glad they excluded features that make it unfavourable to crypto people - for any reason - so that I can buy a pi for what it's intended for at a decent price instead of wondering if people are buying them to shove them up their arse.
      - sudosysgen 6y ago
        Crypto extensions will never make the rpi even remotely cost competitive with even very old GPUs. The main advantage will be general network ops.
        john_alan 6y ago
        I wouldn’t bother to educate someone so closed minded.
        rubyist5eva 6y ago
        Just because I don't want to shove a rasberry pi up my arse doesn't mean I'm closed minded.
    - justin66 6y ago
      > Whether I mine on it or stick it up my arse is just as valid as you gaming. I now understand why the Pi Zero comes standard without the GPIO header.
      - rubyist5eva 6y ago
        Well, that's no fun.
  - api 6y ago
    He said node not miner. There is no way a Pi even with AES could possibly be worth running as a miner.

CameronNemo 6y ago

Have you seen the new firefly rk3568 offering? They have lots of I/O including an M.2 slot and SATA port.

KindOne 6y ago
Never heard of firefly. I've looked into it and I might get one with 8GB RAM. Thanks.
- CameronNemo 6y ago
  Fair warning: the rk3568/rk3566 platform is very young. You may want to be sure that upstream uboot and Linux support the board before ordering. But the hardware looks promising.