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> Bezos has created nearly 200 billion dollars (!) of wealth for himself Bezos' employees have created nearly 200 billion dollars of wealth for Bezos

merpnderp 6y ago
Your implication is that Bezos was inconsequential to the creation of all that brand new wealth. Surely you don't actually believe that and this is just your ideological rhetoric to further your politicized beliefs?
- QuixoticQuibit 6y ago
  Your implication is that Bezos’ employees were inconsequential to the creation of all that brand new wealth. Surely you don't actually believe that and this is just your ideological rhetoric to further your politicized beliefs?
  - merpnderp 6y ago
    Ah-hah, you made a joke by making up something I never said. Funny, but could be improved. Next time try working in something I actually said.
- sharkjacobs 6y ago
  > Your implication is that Bezos was inconsequential to the creation of all that brand new wealth How much wealth would Bezos have created without his employees? I sort of imagine one guy with a computer running an online bookstore running fulfillment out of his garage. I bet he could make an okay living if he's smart and hardworking and lucky but it's a pretty inconsequential fraction of 200 billion.
- asdff 6y ago
  At some point, however, it's momentum and people in the engine room driving the ship rather than the captain. Replace bezos with another decent business person and I'm sure they would have made similar decisions along the way and ended up in a similar place today. It's not like bezos has some sacred gut, he just hires experts and listens to them like any other CEO would do.
  - pbourke 6y ago
    > Replace bezos with another decent business person and I'm sure they would have made similar decisions along the way and ended up in a similar place today. I worked at Amazon for 6 years. I don’t think that’s true at all. Nearly any other professional manager would have been too tempted to turn the mighty river of free cash flow into profit rather than reinvesting in the business.
- TheRealSteel 6y ago
  False dichotomy - they never said he was inconsequential, just that his workers have done the majority of the work - which is objectively true. If Bezos didn't need those workers - if he genuinely created every cent of value in his empire on his own, picked and boxed and delivered every book himself - why did he ever hire anybody?
  - amanaplanacanal 6y ago
    The difference is that you could replace the workers with other bodies and the wealth would still have been created. Replacing Bezos would mean Amazon wouldn’t even exist.
  - merpnderp 6y ago
    But it isn't a false dichotomy. The claim I was responding to stated that the workers had created nearly all of the 200 billion in wealth, which would make Bezos's efforts hardly consequential. And with your line of reasoning I should be mad when my doctor spends 30 seconds checking me and makes a diagnosis and then receives the lions share of the pay. He couldn't do his job with his nurses, office workers, and other employees. But I'm not mad, because he's doing something they can't. Just like Bezos did something no one else could do at the time.
8note 6y ago
I don't they they could have done it without him there. The value of the employee's labour is insignificant without the organization and systems he set up. If they were working somewhere else, they wouldn't be generating 200 billion dollars of wealth at all

merpnderp 6y ago

Your implication is that Bezos was inconsequential to the creation of all that brand new wealth. Surely you don't actually believe that and this is just your ideological rhetoric to further your politicized beliefs?

QuixoticQuibit 6y ago
Your implication is that Bezos’ employees were inconsequential to the creation of all that brand new wealth. Surely you don't actually believe that and this is just your ideological rhetoric to further your politicized beliefs?
- merpnderp 6y ago
  Ah-hah, you made a joke by making up something I never said. Funny, but could be improved. Next time try working in something I actually said.
sharkjacobs 6y ago
> Your implication is that Bezos was inconsequential to the creation of all that brand new wealth How much wealth would Bezos have created without his employees? I sort of imagine one guy with a computer running an online bookstore running fulfillment out of his garage. I bet he could make an okay living if he's smart and hardworking and lucky but it's a pretty inconsequential fraction of 200 billion.
asdff 6y ago
At some point, however, it's momentum and people in the engine room driving the ship rather than the captain. Replace bezos with another decent business person and I'm sure they would have made similar decisions along the way and ended up in a similar place today. It's not like bezos has some sacred gut, he just hires experts and listens to them like any other CEO would do.
- pbourke 6y ago
  > Replace bezos with another decent business person and I'm sure they would have made similar decisions along the way and ended up in a similar place today. I worked at Amazon for 6 years. I don’t think that’s true at all. Nearly any other professional manager would have been too tempted to turn the mighty river of free cash flow into profit rather than reinvesting in the business.
TheRealSteel 6y ago
False dichotomy - they never said he was inconsequential, just that his workers have done the majority of the work - which is objectively true. If Bezos didn't need those workers - if he genuinely created every cent of value in his empire on his own, picked and boxed and delivered every book himself - why did he ever hire anybody?
- amanaplanacanal 6y ago
  The difference is that you could replace the workers with other bodies and the wealth would still have been created. Replacing Bezos would mean Amazon wouldn’t even exist.
- merpnderp 6y ago
  But it isn't a false dichotomy. The claim I was responding to stated that the workers had created nearly all of the 200 billion in wealth, which would make Bezos's efforts hardly consequential. And with your line of reasoning I should be mad when my doctor spends 30 seconds checking me and makes a diagnosis and then receives the lions share of the pay. He couldn't do his job with his nurses, office workers, and other employees. But I'm not mad, because he's doing something they can't. Just like Bezos did something no one else could do at the time.

8note 6y ago

I don't they they could have done it without him there. The value of the employee's labour is insignificant without the organization and systems he set up. If they were working somewhere else, they wouldn't be generating 200 billion dollars of wealth at all