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Financial worth absolutely has to do with the fairness or lack thereof. Bezos has created nearly 200 billion dollars (!) of wealth for himself since founding Am
by gsk22 6y ago
Financial worth absolutely has to do with the fairness or lack thereof. Bezos has created nearly 200 billion dollars (!) of wealth for himself since founding Amazon, so debating the moral value of those gains in comparison to how everyday employees are compensated is well within reason.
And if my employees said I was treating them unfairly, I would try to understand their perspective and make changes to improve working conditions. But maybe that's why I'll never be a CEO.
- fenderbluesjr 6y agoSome people don't think that 'fair treatment' should be determined with the bosses wealth as a factor
- stnmtn 6y agoWhy not? The workers have created enormous value, more than any other time in the history of humanity. Why shouldn't we frame this in terms of where that value goes to?
- refurb 6y agoWorkers enter into an agreement - compensation for labor. There are plenty of people at Amazon who are now millionaires or very highly paid.
- TheRealSteel 6y agoPeople have rent to pay. The "you agreed to it" argument only works if the person genuinely had other realistic options available to them. Nobody would work for peanuts and pee in bottles if they had another realistic option.
- refurb 6y agoWhy would you assume workers don’t have other options? The unemployment rate before Covid was the lowest since the 50’s. If the Amazon job is so bad then there must be plenty of better options?
- stnmtn 6y agoWhy do you think that? Doesn't it make more sense that if people are accepting a bad job it's because all their options are bad as well?
- Agenttin 6y agoIt's not about his wealth. If Jeff had been independently wealthy before starting Amazon this wouldn't be an issue. The problem is the percentage workers receive of the value they generate. Jeff has gotten rich by pushing that number as low as possible, while also working to kill off businesses that might offer alternative employment to low skill workers.
- hinkley 6y agoIt's relatively common wisdom that you don't become a billionaire without fucking over a lot of people. You can be CEO just fine, but billionaire CEO is probably not in the cards for you.
- skrtskrt 6y ago> Bezos has created nearly 200 billion dollars (!) of wealth for himself Bezos' employees have created nearly 200 billion dollars of wealth for Bezos
- merpnderp 6y agoYour implication is that Bezos was inconsequential to the creation of all that brand new wealth. Surely you don't actually believe that and this is just your ideological rhetoric to further your politicized beliefs?
- QuixoticQuibit 6y agoYour implication is that Bezos’ employees were inconsequential to the creation of all that brand new wealth. Surely you don't actually believe that and this is just your ideological rhetoric to further your politicized beliefs?
- merpnderp 6y agoAh-hah, you made a joke by making up something I never said. Funny, but could be improved. Next time try working in something I actually said.
- sharkjacobs 6y ago> Your implication is that Bezos was inconsequential to the creation of all that brand new wealth How much wealth would Bezos have created without his employees? I sort of imagine one guy with a computer running an online bookstore running fulfillment out of his garage. I bet he could make an okay living if he's smart and hardworking and lucky but it's a pretty inconsequential fraction of 200 billion.
- asdff 6y agoAt some point, however, it's momentum and people in the engine room driving the ship rather than the captain. Replace bezos with another decent business person and I'm sure they would have made similar decisions along the way and ended up in a similar place today. It's not like bezos has some sacred gut, he just hires experts and listens to them like any other CEO would do.