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Take any quadcopter, attach high explosives to it, ram them into people and blow them up. While you are at it, throw on a cheap raspberry pi with some simple ma

Take any quadcopter, attach high explosives to it, ram them into people and blow them up. While you are at it, throw on a cheap raspberry pi with some simple machine learned computer vision to target humans. There, I made you afraid of cheap $100 quadcopters off Amazon and raspberry Pis.

simion314 6y ago
True, but there are like 1 billion more real world examples where this devices are used in production, so if you see a drone on the sky you think that is probably some kid with his toy, if you see the dog robot what scenario are you imagining ? (assume you are not on a big city with a university)
- serf 6y ago
  as someone who was into building quadcopters in the DIY drones community since somewhere around 2009, I can tell you that the majority of people who had the opportunity to see me flying my quadcopter (in the far-from-society rural wilderness, by the way) during the early days routinely bothered me about the danger of having such a large flying object, and whether or not I knew if anyone like me was placing weapons on-board. Now you can buy larger quad-copters than I had built off the shelf. Things change , people get used to it, opinions morph. When robotic dogs and bipeds become more common place, people will become less threatened by them just due to sheer anxiety fatigue, if not more friendly reasons. My take : when I see a robotic dog I think "That's a corporation with a spending budget!"
imtringued 6y ago
Most of them cannot carry any significant loads.
- lanternfish 6y ago
  You don't need a very significant load to blow up a person.
  - simion314 6y ago
    I would like to see Myth Busters like video trying this versus other methods (probably is not legal though). If the target is a bit suspicious then i can't see them waiting for a drone to land on their head before it detonates. From I read on news still idiots with guns commit more terrorist attacks. My intuition is that we will see robot dogs with machine guns mass shootings rather then AI drone dropping a grenade.
    - EthanHeilman 6y ago
      In Syria and Iraq quadrotors with bombs were used pretty extensively, first by ISIL and then later by the Iraqi state. They were used to target small groups of infantry and vehicles [0]. In another case, small CoTS RC planes did significant damage to a Russian airbase in Syria [1]. [0]: Death From Above: The Drone Bombs of the Caliphate https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2017/02/10/death-drone-bombs-caliphate/ https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2017/02/10/death-drone-... [1]: Russia Offers New Details About Syrian Mass Drone Attack, Now Implies Ukrainian Connection https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/17595/russia-offers-new-details-about-syrian-mass-drone-attack-now-implies-ukrainian-connection https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/17595/russia-offers-ne...
      - simion314 6y ago
        This big drones also make me anxious, the difference they did not popup on HN or my Youtube, the only drones I seen before today were the ones used for filming. So yeah an AI controlled large done with face recognition and machine guns also gives me chills, I am thinking that at this moment some military dudes are creating strategies to combine the dogs and drones to create a "police" force somewhere.
        EthanHeilman 6y ago
        You don't need a machine gun. If you are using computer aiming and stabilization at close distances, it would almost never miss. A suppressed tube of subsonic .22lr would be quiet, accurate, and very light.
- PeterisP 6y ago
  Standard hand grenade is roughly 400g / 1 pound; 40mm grenade launcher ammo often is half a pound / 230 grams. That's considered reasonably effective by the militaries, and fully within the capabilities of many cheap quadcopters.
westpfelia 6y ago
My duder you should watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HipTO_7mUOw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HipTO_7mUOw
SyzygistSix 6y ago
I can't deny what you say is true but something about the Dog and Mule robots is very creepy and disturbing on a deep, visceral level that I don't get from quadcopters.

simion314 6y ago

True, but there are like 1 billion more real world examples where this devices are used in production, so if you see a drone on the sky you think that is probably some kid with his toy, if you see the dog robot what scenario are you imagining ? (assume you are not on a big city with a university)

serf 6y ago
as someone who was into building quadcopters in the DIY drones community since somewhere around 2009, I can tell you that the majority of people who had the opportunity to see me flying my quadcopter (in the far-from-society rural wilderness, by the way) during the early days routinely bothered me about the danger of having such a large flying object, and whether or not I knew if anyone like me was placing weapons on-board. Now you can buy larger quad-copters than I had built off the shelf. Things change , people get used to it, opinions morph. When robotic dogs and bipeds become more common place, people will become less threatened by them just due to sheer anxiety fatigue, if not more friendly reasons. My take : when I see a robotic dog I think "That's a corporation with a spending budget!"

imtringued 6y ago

Most of them cannot carry any significant loads.

lanternfish 6y ago
You don't need a very significant load to blow up a person.
- simion314 6y ago
  I would like to see Myth Busters like video trying this versus other methods (probably is not legal though). If the target is a bit suspicious then i can't see them waiting for a drone to land on their head before it detonates. From I read on news still idiots with guns commit more terrorist attacks. My intuition is that we will see robot dogs with machine guns mass shootings rather then AI drone dropping a grenade.
  - EthanHeilman 6y ago
    In Syria and Iraq quadrotors with bombs were used pretty extensively, first by ISIL and then later by the Iraqi state. They were used to target small groups of infantry and vehicles [0]. In another case, small CoTS RC planes did significant damage to a Russian airbase in Syria [1]. [0]: Death From Above: The Drone Bombs of the Caliphate https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2017/02/10/death-drone-bombs-caliphate/ https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2017/02/10/death-drone-... [1]: Russia Offers New Details About Syrian Mass Drone Attack, Now Implies Ukrainian Connection https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/17595/russia-offers-new-details-about-syrian-mass-drone-attack-now-implies-ukrainian-connection https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/17595/russia-offers-ne...
    - simion314 6y ago
      This big drones also make me anxious, the difference they did not popup on HN or my Youtube, the only drones I seen before today were the ones used for filming. So yeah an AI controlled large done with face recognition and machine guns also gives me chills, I am thinking that at this moment some military dudes are creating strategies to combine the dogs and drones to create a "police" force somewhere.
      - EthanHeilman 6y ago
        You don't need a machine gun. If you are using computer aiming and stabilization at close distances, it would almost never miss. A suppressed tube of subsonic .22lr would be quiet, accurate, and very light.
PeterisP 6y ago
Standard hand grenade is roughly 400g / 1 pound; 40mm grenade launcher ammo often is half a pound / 230 grams. That's considered reasonably effective by the militaries, and fully within the capabilities of many cheap quadcopters.

westpfelia 6y ago

My duder you should watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HipTO_7mUOw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HipTO_7mUOw

SyzygistSix 6y ago

I can't deny what you say is true but something about the Dog and Mule robots is very creepy and disturbing on a deep, visceral level that I don't get from quadcopters.