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> unless the throw him in a cage until he regurgitates his private keys. In the UK it's a crime to not disclose keys or passwords to the police, even if it's o

> unless the throw him in a cage until he regurgitates his private keys. In the UK it's a crime to not disclose keys or passwords to the police, even if it's only for investigatory purposes. So they could have done this before it even went to trial. Presumably they could do it now under the pretext of investigating the UK victims of the scam. But I believe the maximum sentence is two years, whether through the key disclosure law, or general contempt of court. I'd do 2 years for $713 million. I think almost everyone would.

cosmodisk 6y ago
Most of Europe is quite good for that kind of crime,in the US they'd probably lock you in and throw the keys into the ocean.
- TheRealPomax 6y ago
  In the US you just go "oh, sorry, forgot to register as a bank" and fix it retroactively without ever going to trial because you can handsomely pay off everyone involved.
  - akadruid1 6y ago
    Depends how wealthy you are. $713m may be enough, but H. Beatty Chadwick did 14 years because Delaware County Court didn't believe his claim he no longer had $2.5m.
    - TheRealPomax 6y ago
      2.5m doesn't even buy you a house.
      - carmen_sandiego 6y ago
        In Central Park?
steelframe 6y ago
> I'd do 2 years for $713 million. Heck, I've already done 10 years with my current employer for far less.
ur-whale 6y ago
> In the UK it's a crime to not disclose keys or passwords to the police Makes me happy I don't live there. At the very least, it saves me from having to resort to steganography and/or claiming amnesia. Also: he's already committed a larger crime, so who cares.
toss1 6y ago
Are they all in one wallet, or spread out in multiple wallets? Prosecutors know about stacking charges, - 2 years for each password... Then, since you are required to pay restitution, once one Satoshi of those coins moves, on the public blockchain, you're in hot water again. Basically, you'd be doing 2 x [X wallets] years, to be able to look at your blockchain addresses holding all that BTC and never touch them. Unless, you'd previously moved some to an address that was never never-transacted-with and never detected.

cosmodisk 6y ago

Most of Europe is quite good for that kind of crime,in the US they'd probably lock you in and throw the keys into the ocean.

TheRealPomax 6y ago
In the US you just go "oh, sorry, forgot to register as a bank" and fix it retroactively without ever going to trial because you can handsomely pay off everyone involved.
- akadruid1 6y ago
  Depends how wealthy you are. $713m may be enough, but H. Beatty Chadwick did 14 years because Delaware County Court didn't believe his claim he no longer had $2.5m.
  - TheRealPomax 6y ago
    2.5m doesn't even buy you a house.
    - carmen_sandiego 6y ago
      In Central Park?

steelframe 6y ago

> I'd do 2 years for $713 million. Heck, I've already done 10 years with my current employer for far less.

ur-whale 6y ago

> In the UK it's a crime to not disclose keys or passwords to the police Makes me happy I don't live there. At the very least, it saves me from having to resort to steganography and/or claiming amnesia. Also: he's already committed a larger crime, so who cares.

toss1 6y ago

Are they all in one wallet, or spread out in multiple wallets? Prosecutors know about stacking charges, - 2 years for each password... Then, since you are required to pay restitution, once one Satoshi of those coins moves, on the public blockchain, you're in hot water again. Basically, you'd be doing 2 x [X wallets] years, to be able to look at your blockchain addresses holding all that BTC and never touch them. Unless, you'd previously moved some to an address that was never never-transacted-with and never detected.