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Most people can't articulate visions for themselves let alone human society. Could anyone point me to an author/thinker who can provide a meaningful vision for

Most people can't articulate visions for themselves let alone human society. Could anyone point me to an author/thinker who can provide a meaningful vision for society in light of this rapid technological progress? I see Zuckerberg wants to embed us in virtual reality, Elon want us to go mars and evolve to cyborgs with neuralinks, Bezos want us to sit all day and one-click-buy from automated Stretch powered Amazon warehouses, governments want to bring coal factories back and print money, and the rest of us just busy speculating about NFTs, stocks, bitcoins, real-estate and posting on HN and social networks.. Where is the delighted vision for humanity in the next twenty years in the mix of all of that? I'd be happy if someone could share one with me.

arketyp 6y ago
Though I sympathize with your concerns, maybe that attitude is part of the problem? Why do you expect anyone else to have a vision for you/us?
- aogaili 6y ago
  Well, it is conversation. I'm doing entrepreneurship and I run business so I'm capable of articulating some vision for some part of the world. But I'm NOT in a position to articulate a vision for humanity, and what I see/hear concerns me, and I'm really hoping someone has one. Also, even if I/You have a vision, I don't think I'm (I speak for myself) in a position to make some major social or economical changes, which seem to me, necessary to avoid the societal catastrophe that might happen when things like this robot gets widely adopted.
MisterTea 6y ago
> and the rest of us just busy speculating about NFTs, stocks, bitcoins, real-estate and posting on HN and social networks. It's sad when someone's idea of creative free time consists of gambling and addiction.
- aogaili 6y ago
  Yeah, I'm personally not into any of that, but I don't hold myself any better than those who do, I just happen to have better support system and got lucky with some skill/goals that keeps me busy. But I can't help but notice that when faced with uncertainty and job instability many choose to throw money in whatever they happen to perceive the future would be, and unfortunately a lot of those so called "investment" are hyped by other capitalizing on their fears. Economical bubbles are everywhere (real estate, NFTs, stocks, bitcoins, etc.) I do think the underlying issue is the instability in the economical system. My concern is that this trend toward job elimination and capital centralization accelerated with Covid. And governments, economist, thinkers still unable to articulate a vision/strategy for the future, or even worse acknowledge the issue. The change is consumer behaviour last year was extremely rapid, those who never bought online in their live are now buying only online and many of those changes don't seem to be reversible. I really hope I'm wrong, but the way I see it, with the current market economics and centralization, and the rate of change, a lot of us and huge chunk of our society would find itself with no prospect of work or income because our government and economical systems are just lagging behind.

arketyp 6y ago

Though I sympathize with your concerns, maybe that attitude is part of the problem? Why do you expect anyone else to have a vision for you/us?

aogaili 6y ago
Well, it is conversation. I'm doing entrepreneurship and I run business so I'm capable of articulating some vision for some part of the world. But I'm NOT in a position to articulate a vision for humanity, and what I see/hear concerns me, and I'm really hoping someone has one. Also, even if I/You have a vision, I don't think I'm (I speak for myself) in a position to make some major social or economical changes, which seem to me, necessary to avoid the societal catastrophe that might happen when things like this robot gets widely adopted.

MisterTea 6y ago

> and the rest of us just busy speculating about NFTs, stocks, bitcoins, real-estate and posting on HN and social networks. It's sad when someone's idea of creative free time consists of gambling and addiction.

aogaili 6y ago
Yeah, I'm personally not into any of that, but I don't hold myself any better than those who do, I just happen to have better support system and got lucky with some skill/goals that keeps me busy. But I can't help but notice that when faced with uncertainty and job instability many choose to throw money in whatever they happen to perceive the future would be, and unfortunately a lot of those so called "investment" are hyped by other capitalizing on their fears. Economical bubbles are everywhere (real estate, NFTs, stocks, bitcoins, etc.) I do think the underlying issue is the instability in the economical system. My concern is that this trend toward job elimination and capital centralization accelerated with Covid. And governments, economist, thinkers still unable to articulate a vision/strategy for the future, or even worse acknowledge the issue. The change is consumer behaviour last year was extremely rapid, those who never bought online in their live are now buying only online and many of those changes don't seem to be reversible. I really hope I'm wrong, but the way I see it, with the current market economics and centralization, and the rate of change, a lot of us and huge chunk of our society would find itself with no prospect of work or income because our government and economical systems are just lagging behind.