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Personally, I'd love to see all non violent offenders skip jail. That doesn't necessarily mean skip judgement but home arrest and community service should be t
by gremlinsinc 6y ago
Personally, I'd love to see all non violent offenders skip jail.
That doesn't necessarily mean skip judgement but home arrest and community service should be the modes to serve penance where due.
This way people still pay their own way and the system is less bogged down and even low level criminals may find opportunity to become better through education etc...
- javajosh 6y agoAgreed, but you know who will push back? The police. The private companies running the prisons. Because it means less leverage, less power, and ultimately, less money.
- ch4s3 6y agoPrivate prisons don't exist in many states and represent a very small fraction of people in prison. We lock up so many people because for many years that has been a popular thing to do, and people have affirmatively voted for it. I think those people are wrong, but let's not mislead ourselves about how this happened.
- ic0n0cl4st 6y agoEven public prisons are primarily run and populates through the formiddable lobbying power of police and prison guard unions. Their influence is far more insidiuous than that of the comparably small for-profit prison industry. Also an opportunity to question your union stance.
- josephcsible 6y agoNone of Bernie Madoff's offenses were violent. Should he not have gone to jail?
- ic0n0cl4st 6y agoMadoff would have been less likely to go to jail had he made off with poor peoples’ money instead of that of rich people.
- BrianOnHN 6y agoNext time read the article before making a useless straw man argument. It's about drug and sex crimes, not financial crimes.
- josephcsible 6y agoI wasn't responding to the article. I was responding to the comment that said "I'd love to see all non violent offenders skip jail."
- orwin 6y agoFor people that don't see prison as punishment, indeed, Maddoff should not a done jail. He should have been bankrupt and forbidden to ever work with financial services.
- gremlinsinc 6y agoThis. Remove all his assets, maybe even his citizenship. I mean when crime exceeds billions of dollars, that's a bit more than just petty theft or something too... The punishment should fit the crime, but prisons should be ONLY to protect people from dangerous criminals (Serial killers, rapists, etc) and not a form of 'punishment'. For madoff just tax him at 90% of his income for life, assuming he/kin have zero assets. Ensuring he has to work at walmart as a greeter just to get by. I'm sure that's probably just as bad as prison for many white-collar criminals.
- aspaceman 6y agoWhy ask a rhetorical question? It’s pompous as all hell and makes your point impossible to truly parse. No, I don’t think the above poster this Bernie Madoff shouldn’t have gone to jail.....now what’s your point again? Where are we? Oh right, something like Bernie didn’t cause harm, therefore he would also be released in your little plan, hmmm? Like what’s the point of such smartassery. Financial harm isn’t some new concept. “He hurt my money”. Is there another argument you want fenangled out of some smartass comment next? At least make a claim like, “nonviolence is hard to prove” or _anything_